šŸ€ General Summer 2025 Portal/Recruiting

I think the rough blueprint for what Odom is hoping for is Nate Oats at Alabama. His first recruiting class there, the 2026 equivalent for Odom, was just okay. He snagged late bloomer Josh Primo who wound up being one and done, but otherwise nothing to write home about.

But then by his 2nd class, he pulled in a couple big fish, even then players they had advantages with, a five star in-state guard and a big guy from Canada where Oats always had a pipeline. But then the 3rd year, the 2028 equivalent for Odom, it was on and he was able to get top guys from all over.

I’m not saying the same thing will happen here but I do think that’s kinda what they’re hoping for. It’s why you’re seeing them pursue players that seem out of our league at the moment…trying to set the tone that UVA will be in that mix. Oats had some good fortune there early on that probably helped make that recruiting leap. He inherited future NBA guys.

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Probably but I’m sure you’re more than happy to

Not really. Just like CTB I want Odom to be successful. But I think it’s a trend worth highlighting right now. Lots of time to play out of course

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Oh there were a lot of things to write home about after he went to the league (all bad).

More seriously, the 3-year timeline makes sense. I wonder if they’ll be kinda choosy with their reach guys (ie guys who you’re not so sure will be players at this level) because they know they can go international for a spot or two.

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Curious… in this new world, why would we be out of anyone’s league. In the old model, the blue bloods had history, reputation, nationally televised games, path to the NBA, and money under the table. There were clear football schools and clear basketball schools. Doesn’t seem like those advantages are reserved for select programs as much anymore. And we just spent as much money as anyone on our team. For a long time, we were also battling the stigma of our pace and style of play under Bennett. So I’ve been wondering, what if anything is handicapping us now?

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High school recruiting hasn’t changed that much. I’m not saying money can’t sway a recruit here and there but for the most part it’s still about the same things. Everybody has advantages and disadvantages. The key is to recruit to those advantages. For Odom, he’s going to play up his style and having opportunity for high end guys that won’t be as clear as other places. But he doesn’t have the track record of other coaches yet.

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Oh this is a great strategy comp. I’ve been using the Kelsey Louisville but this may be better…

I wouldn’t be surprised if Odom snags a top guy in the next class. Maybe not top 5 but a top 25 guy. Especially if he has a successful season year 1.

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I wonder how much consideration might be given to staying vaguely in it with guys committed to potential coaching change spots. I’d be eying Michigan State, UNC, UCLA, etc. guys in case something weird happens and we’ve had a nice year 1 under Odom.

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@HoozGotNext you think this is a good watchlist for offers? (Odom seems more unpredictable)

Quentin Coleman
Symon Ghai
Aeneas Alexander
Julius Avent (They watched PSA cardinals some even without Mingo)
Jalyn Collingwood
Maximo Adams (Theus started following)
Colben Landrew (if it’s not too late)
Ethan MgBako (they watched team Melo some and Young Mgbako is at Oak Hill).
Yabbi Aklog (not as likely but strong few weeks with multiple staff follows)
Ralph Scott the Bermuda kid
and Pops Dinson

edit: Forgot Jalan Wingfield. Crawford followed him and then Tipton made the ā€œThis kid’s recruitment is wide open no longer top 10ā€. Been a standout performer at Adidas. Also I will never stop manifesting #offerdariusbivins and maybe Pendergrass. And staff looking at Collin Ross

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I guess. Add Darkari Spears, and won’t surprise me if they take a swing at other longer shot Texans Austin Goosby or Aziz Olajuwon. I don’t have as good of a read on the Adidas guys, coaches were harder to track there.

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Dakari is rated high on ESPN but his aau stats and watch how he moves in clips doesn’t impress.

Would take Quentin over him 100 times out of 10.

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While recruiting may not have changed that much, the real issue going forward will be retention. At least, IMO. While things are changing a bit fast, I have a suspicion that we may see teams which enjoy both continuity and decent talent finishing ahead of teams with elite, if not temporary, talent. Of course, a lot of this will depend on the nature of the contracts between players and schools. The other fly in the ointment will be agents. Just as we’ve watched the emergence of prep schools focused almost entirely on basketball development for elite talent, will we see the creation of large talent agencies offering their services to high school players? Where there’s money to be made…

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Next year’s Peach Jam will be headlined by Scott Boras Prep. LOL!

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Sadly, I am not convinced that this isn’t the direction in which the sport is headed.

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This already is happening and the same agencies that represent elite pro basketball players represent the college and high school ones.

Ryan Dunn was repped by CAA starting the summer before his 2nd year, for example.

I’m less worried about the elite players, who are going to typically be with well-established and professional agencies that span many sports, and more about the guys at the margins.

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Yeah I mean didn’t Cooper Flagg have a New Balance deal before playing a game at Duke? A Nike school no less. The top guys are definitely already represented in some capacity, officially or not, coming out of high school.

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247 is reporting that big man Arafan Diane is planning to visit. I had written him off. Odom saw him the first week at Adidas but he played at a side event in Augusta last week and they never showed up.

He has a story very much like Mamadi. He’s even from Guinea. It’s one of those guardian/handler situations, the Iowa United coach is in charge. Which sometimes creates a kooky recruitment. And that’s not necessarily bad for us in this situation. Wouldn’t be hopeful about it, but he’s one of these recruits that will be unpredictable.

There’s a short window coming up when recruits can take visits, July 28-Aug 3. He said before he’s going to VCU for an unofficial (kooky right?), and then to Houston. So maybe going two for one on the VA trip, we’ll see what date comes out.

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That’s why him and Mamadi follows each other and like each others Instagram posts.

https://x.com/LeagueRDY/status/1935723187460866080

https://x.com/CourtsideFilms/status/1924276790673195489

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When does Rivals/On3 put out their new rankings?

Looks like 247 updated in June but Rivals/On3 still using rankings from March.

Edit: nvm looks like if you access from On3’s website they have a June update. They should probably redirect from the rivals site…

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Crawford started following today

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