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I don’t complain about the refs. It’s a very tough job at that age. My son actually got 2 yellow cards in the championship game lol. Got removed the last 4 minutes. He kicked the ball while out of bounds because he was frustrated about a mistake and they thought he was he was trying to delay the clock on purpose. We were up 3-0

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Ah… I didn’t give your son the red card… that’s a lot of paperwork. Haha! I was on a different Championship game at the time.

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Once had a ref save our season because he was too lazy to file the paperwork on a red card that would have meant a suspension in a crucial game.

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Honestly… it’s a lot of paperwork. A full written out field report for all 3 officials for tournament and posterity, pictures of reports sent everywhere, center referee has to call the commissioner and give a verbal report within 4-hours of the card, online report within 30 minutes of the incident. You change from being a referee to an administrative job…

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Why do red cards even exist at young ages?

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If you saw how some of these younger kids played… I think you’d understand. If there was no risk of send-off you could have issues. I almost gave a red card to an 8-y/o on Saturday… he got frustrated and gained speed for 10 yards to shoulder charge another kid out of bounds without the ball.

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Lil kids be bitches sometimes.

Also my kids reaching that age and participating in sports is one of the things I’m least looking forward to. Wish I could just keep them in a lab and unleash them on the world in HS.

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I am so glad we are past that stage now. Was mostly fun until we got to travel ball–then it became a part time job. Miss watching my son play and the high points but don’t miss driving up and down the east coast and dealing with all the drama.

I totally feel for coaches and refs–parents can be a trip.

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I stopped coaching club soccer about 4 years ago because of the a combination of time commitment/parents. If I’m honest, mostly parents. I did HS the last couple years because I love soccer and I thought it would be better but it is not. Probably done for good. It just isn’t a healthy environment.

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So over the past few weekends I’ve come to this conclusion on the comments to the referee:

  1. Coaches can be nice… they are entitled to comment if they think a call was wrong, that is their right as the coach and I will respect that… if it becomes belligerent, with curse words, throwing stuff, that is when it becomes a problem.

  2. Players are normally just trying to manipulate you into making a call to benefit their side… perhaps not at the exact play that just occurred but most likely for a subsequent play… and as with coaches, if it becomes belligerent, with curse words, that is when it becomes a problem.

  3. Parents are just spewing stuff they barely understand. Most of the time they barely know the rules and are yelling for stuff that isn’t correct. It’s mostly harmless, but if either the coaches or the players become a$$h@les, the parents quickly feed into that and make the rest of the game miserable.

At the end of the day… most of the parent problems for the referees is dictated by how the coaches and players act towards the referee. There are oviously exceptions as there are definitely !d!0t parents out there that just want to yell… but mostly parents don’t understand the rules enough to go too over the top.

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If I were you I would talk back to them in German and show that you obviously know the game better than them

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@DavetheWave what do you think about this?

I refereed a HS game last night… this dude went down around midfield, stopped the game and went up to him… I asked ā€œare you okay?ā€ā€¦ I heard a fan like 5 miles away yell, ā€œOf course he’s not fucking okay you piece of shit!ā€

The dude was fine… he got up about 10 seconds later.

:rofl: fans… w.t.f.?

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Red card to the fan.
In a basketball game, I would go right to the site administrator and have him walk that fan out and would not continue the game until it happened.
And it has nothing to do with whether or not, I can handle the comments from the fans it’s all about the atmosphere deteriorating and being less than acceptable

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Also parents and family members Of young soccer players here in the US are still very unknowledgeable about most aspects of the game.
Like little things of you get kicked in the leg. It will hurt like crazy for a little bit but then you’re OK.

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https://x.com/thehoopherald/status/1764973256199581732?s=46&t=vx3c-OF07QBvYhNkrdgjHw

Some simple advice and helps your mind focus on something other than the shot

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Funny - that was my primary shot but if I was shooting from deeper pro range and farther - or
If there were days I was feeling a bit weaker… I would leave my guide hand on longer and sometimes even use my left thumb to help push - for easier distance shooting.

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Yea this just specific to FTs. Is good to focus on maybe 1 random thing and trust the shot to have a chance

https://x.com/thehoopherald/status/1764978263028318448?s=46&t=vx3c-OF07QBvYhNkrdgjHw

And this…

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VHSL does not allow soccer referees to interact with fans… only the site administrators. I cannot red card spectators either… only coaches and players.

He was seriously 5 miles away in the stands… so i just ignored it.

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I remember reading a story where Steve Kerr talked about a similar drill from his playing days:

https://grantland.com/features/the-shot-doctor/

With Kerr playing reduced minutes in Portland as a 36-year-old during the 2001-02 campaign, he found himself struggling to stay loose for meaningful shooting opportunities. Kerr told Engelland about his problem and the shooting expert flew up and offered a solution: a 30-minute, seven-shot workout. Kerr and Engelland would sit alone on the bench in the Portland practice facility after everybody else had left. Engelland would ask Kerr to tell him what was going on with his kids or even leave him to read a newspaper. After a few minutes, Engelland would shout at Kerr to go, and the two would sprint off the bench and set Kerr up for a single 3-point attempt from the wing before returning to the bench. Repeat six more times and you’ve got the league’s most unlikely — and simultaneously most logical — shooting workout. A typical shooting coach, Kerr said, would have noted his struggles and told him to take 200 shots from a variety of spots to try to regain his physical rhythm. Instead, Engelland put himself in Kerr’s shoes to help refresh Kerr’s mental timing.

Pretty cool stuff

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