⛹ Jalen Warley - Official Thread

And now we are at the complaining about the complaining about the complaining.

But what about the complaining about the complaining about the complaining about the complaining?

To be fair also Jalen Warley isn’t one dimensional offensively. He can do a lot outside shooting threes (jumpers/attacking the rim/post ups/playmaking/etc.)

Anyways it’s never about one player. Its about the entire roster and the scheme. I think Warley could be useful for us but that depends on how Tony uses him (we won the national title with Kihei and Mamadi not really providing all that much floor spacing). I think concerns and excitement both about warley are valid.

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Agree on conclusion but rankings from 3+ years ago are not relevant now. It’s about recent proven performance. Warley has proven more than either Rohde or Harris and he is a bigger player.

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Warley a top 100 on Miya’s transfer rankings for whatever that’s worth. Nobody else we are after (that’s public) cracks the top 200. Grain of salt, of course, just sharing as another data point.

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This joke doesn’t really make sense. Warley isn’t a bad 3pt shooter. He doesn’t shoot threes. He’s not a heavy volume low efficient chucker.

Even when his man is sagging he drives at them to attack the rim or kick on the collapse.

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Warley isn’t perfect but he’s a big, athletic, experienced P5 player. We had basically none of those on the roster before today.

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Counterpoint: Warley is a good shooter and perfect.

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I think he’s a bad one and because of that, he didn’t shoot 3s last year… which was smart. Wish some of our players did that.

Scotty Barnes lite maybe?

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One positive attribute: doesn’t take 3s he knows he can’t make. That’s an upgrade over previous guards who would take plenty of 3s they would never make.

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did shoot 9/20 from 3 in acc play the year before.

More seriously I do like that he drives and attacks. The complete opposite of Dunn who would catch the ball wide open the perimeter and just stand there, not shooting, but also not do anything. Warley is very aggressive attacking and getting down hill.

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Oh I know the irony in it, but scrolling through like 5 posts of “Why don’t you negative idiots get it?” annoyed me enough to say something, haha.

Yeah, he is a great fit for a lot of offenses… none of which resemble what we do! Our offensive scheme for years has been to generate good jump shot looks for our guards and this man doesn’t shoot jump shots. I doubt Tony is going to change to a transition focused offense or foul-baiting-drive-to-the-hoop basketball. Don’t get me wrong - he can be integrated and it can maybe work - but it is not crazy for folks to note that he doesn’t shoot and that might be an issue when our major offensive limitation for like four years now has been our guards’ inability to shoot at a high level.

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Come on. We’ve done this before with Rohde’s “last third of the season for St Thomas he shot X”. It’s a terrible way to look at data. Don’t just pick the pieces of a season you like and ignore the rest to make an argument. It’s just generally bad practice.

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This is the main thing… at 6’7” and having kind of already been a P6 PG, he should be able to generate the open looks albeit not the one taking the generated looks… he’s a guy you build the on court lineup around not the other way IMO.

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I think @Hooandtrue was being TIC. He’s not going to shoot 3s here

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Watching one set of highlights it looks like the ball finds Warley. Lose ones and missed shots etc. dude is around the ball

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My guy I literally said in the same post “more seriously”.

You really need to chill the fuck out LOL

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I just disagree. I think our offense is best when all the guards are at least semi-legitimate threats from three.

We literally just did this with Reece. You could say the exact same thing about him. And you know what happened? It became insanely easy for opposing teams to plan for it because they knew Reece didn’t want to take the three and they could just cut off the pass to McKneely and sag off Reece.

Guys who initiate the offense in our system that can’t shoot themselves is a problem.

Was adding guys in May intentional by the staff or it just happened to play out that way? Seem like we really wanted to add players sooner than early May, but it happens that we got our first kid today. Pretty sure our existing players figured CTB was looking to add players weeks ago, right?

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Literally have this situation at home and hadn’t gotten around to buying a replacement rim/nor thought of this… good looking out

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Stop beatin that rim up bro

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