Taine is 1st in EFG%
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Let’s keep a guy benched so he can’t show a larger sample size and keep giving the guy who can’t shoot in a larger sample size those minutes?
What if Taine and Rohde’s minutes were flipped?
Nobody knows because he doesn’t get a chance.
But let’s not pretend he hasn’t earned the opportunity.
50% on Two’s
50% on Threes
63% on Free Throws
Vs Rohde who is
39% on Twos
32% on Threes
33% on Free Throws
They’ve both been bad rebounders but Taine is actually a little better.
Taines also a good amount better in Win Shares per 40 minutes.
But Bond is 2nd on the team in Win Shares per 40 - ahead of Beekman
Rohde is in a virtual tie with Harris for 9th - only ahead of Minor.
To give context to the Win Shares per 40 as a measure, here are the Acc leaders right now:
Dunn, Flip, Kidd, PJ Hall, Omier, Beekman, Blake Hinson, Bacot, Maliq Brown, Quinten Post.
Bond would be 7th in the Acc with enough qualifying minutes
That explains all the NBA scouts at our recent games
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What in the world does the NBA have to do with college production and effectiveness?
How many college national players of the year were as good vs their NBA peers the last 25 years? Maybe 2 out of 25?
Taine has a role on this team, but it’s not as the team’s best shooter. We’re talking about a guy who’s made 7 shots all season.
Taine’s experience and knowledge of the system are pluses for a young team, but he’s got limitations to his game. He’s not suddenly going to be able to handle Rohde’s responsibilities as a secondary ball handler. He’s just not.
Ronde is still developing and adjusting to the jump up in competition. The Texas A&M game and the Syracuse game were steps in the right direction. The Northeastern game was not good, but he found ways to impact the game positively. We will see if he keeps developing.
I’m all for finding hidden advantages based on numbers, but to suggest Murray should be taking minutes away from Rohde is a bit of a stretch.
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Taine was on the court in the first half when UVa erased an 18-11 deficit and got to the under-4:00 media timeout tied at 20. Then he was subbed out and I don’t think payed in the second half. Murray played solid defense and provided spacing on offense despite not scoring or even really being an option during any of the offensive plays they ran. Murray can help steady a game, but he’s not a guy who is going to carry the load.
In the end, the contribution was kind of moot since the group that closed out the first half let the deficit get to 30-24. But I definitely think it shows Murray has a specific kind of role on this team. Zach Carey noted it on Twitter as well.
https://x.com/zach_carey_/status/1736168427788607878?s=46&t=vkjgQUekzGC7z44tIfnIRQ
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In the three games against kenpom ‘A’ teams (Wisconsin, Texas am, Florida) Leon is 1-6 from the field with no FT attempts and no defnesnsive rebounds. Against Syracuse he was 2-7 from the field. He’s put up all of his efficient numbers against the weak teams on our schedule so far
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Unfortunately this is true. Small sample size obviously though.
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He’s only 10 games into his college career. I think that production will translate in the seasons to come.
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He played 4 min vs Florida and only 8 vs A&M.
Bond was 0/1 vs Wisconsin and Rohde was 2/6.
Rohde was 5/14 vs A&M … is that good?
Bond has shot 50% or better from the field in 6 out of the 8 games he played more than 8 minutes. Can he continue that pace?
Anybody on the current roster that has ever done that in their career in an 8 game stretch on at least 6.4 FGA per game?
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This is a bigger deal than lotta people realise
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The funny thing is that Taine does have good on-off numbers, but it’s mostly because the team has been really good on defense in his minutes. They’ve been right around their typical offensive baseline in his minutes.
I don’t think there’s ever been a more absurd invocation of stats than this statement. It’s as though you want the games played in a spreadsheet rather than in a gym. You’ve gone so far off the deep end as to state Bennett should award playing time to enlarge a sample size so as to validate your inferences from the stat sheet.
Do you think that it’s possible that there’s more to the success of the team than what you can glean from numbers? That perhaps you’re not getting all of the important variables in the form of numbers? That cohesive and effective play in a continuous team sport isn’t just a function of those numbers? That Bennett is asking players to do things in a system that aren’t always reflected in numbers? Because the alternate is that Bennett has all of this information in front of him and either just doesn’t know what the hell he’s doing or is trying to sabotage certain players.
I think you need to step away from the stats and just enjoy the development of the team.
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I think the coaches are very influenced by match ups regarding Bond and not playing him as much when they think the match up is unfavorable (big, tall front lines). Bond’s numbers during the few minutes he does get in those games seem to bolster the coaches’ perceptions, but is that because the lack of confidence being projected by the coaches is effecting Bond’s performance in those games? And there’s something to be said about how difficult it is for a player to get acclimated to a game when he’s only getting a few minutes at a time to play. I think there will be opportunities for Bond to get a longer run in some games this year against taller front lines, either due to injury, foul trouble, or poor play by Dunn or Groves. I’m hoping he will surprise the coaches in those situations.
This is not how math works. I would know, since I was an English major.
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I don’t disagree with your general point, BUT I would wonder *if TB has all of the stats at his disposal that we have- not because he doesn’t have access, but that this message board has 100’s of people on it, with several bringing in and crowdsourcing different sources of analysis, with all of us arguing until we’re blue in the face about them.
TB actually has a finite amount of time to research, review, teach and implement so it wouldn’t realistically be possible for him to casually sit in a chat room and discuss all day like we can.
That is to say that when it’s time to play the games he goes with his gut more often.
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Frankly, I’d rather have Tony go with his instincts than spend his time trying to decipher the “trapezoid of excellence.”
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I believe that Bennett did once say he is given all the analytics and that some of his assistant coaches were really into it, but that he did not follow analytics that closely. I’m not sure you should conclude he’s ignoring all the various stats, though, because it might just mean that he’s been playing and coaching a long time and he’s instinctually picking up a lot of what the analytics support-- for example, which line ups work well and which ones don’t.
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None of us knows what goes on behind the curtain, but I suspect that Bennett has all the stats that he wants to have, which probably does not include a lot of “advanced” stats. What he has that we don’t, in addition to a world of experience, is all of the details of what he is communicating to and seeing from his players in practice. He can judge effort, fluidity, awareness, continuousness, and other things that don’t show up on a stat sheet or result in something that often gets assigned to another player. When something breaks down either offensively or defensively, it’s often due to a mistake made one or more movements/decisions before the end result. He’s surely basing in-game decisions on what he knows from practice, from general player information (e.g. we didn’t know Rohde was hurt or that Eli was on a load restriction), what is being discussed in the locker room or huddle, and what is transpiring on court, whereas we only see what see on TV or from the stands. Basketball is an instinctive, creative, and fluid game best when played like a Van Gogh painting. Stats are just a color-by-numbers representation.
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