We talk over beeras on this oneâŚ
Its hard for me to have a huge opinion on NIL when there are zero guidelines and you already have âactualâ agents representing kids, parents asking for money etc⌠and I cant hate them for it
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Another thought on all this: no reason why you canât bifurcate a coachâs role, like they do in the NBA. Get one guy (or, imagine this, gal) or guys to do all the recruiting and portal stuff that all these millionaire coaches keep whinging and crying about. And another set of guys to do all the coaching. Thereâs no reason it has to be the same folks. Obviously better if they are simpatico. Plus, with conferences in charge, all they have to do is lift the relevant caps.
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Schools often pay grad students for work done (e.g. TAing a class or doing funded research) while also making school free (tuition remission), so itâs always puzzled me why that framework canât just be extended to athletics in some way.
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UVa paid me to make copies at the med school library for inter library loan. Damn, typing the words âinterlibrary loanâ just made me realize how old I amâŚ
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Iâm debating your last paragraph:
It reads like youâre saying: âThe markets need less transparency into the monetary compensation paid to recruits and transfers.â Do fans, as the ultimate source of cash flows into the markets, have a right to insight into how players are getting paid?
I am not sure. On one hand, I can see it necessary so an athletic department, and by extension its funders/fans, can understand where they stand. On the other hand, I donât think fans have a right to know a playerâs GPA or other personal matters; so why would a fan have a right to know a playerâs compensation?
While neither here nor there, I have âlocked-out MLB baseballâ after this off-season. I agree with you that it is possible for college basketball to alienate a percentage of its fan-base. If UVA is at a severe competitive handicap, the entertainment in the competition does not exist for me.
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To be fair we were at a handicap coming into the league and Tony took 3 stars Brogdon and Harris and Akil Mitchel, whom we were the only committable D1 offer, and whopped dem 5 star asses on Duke and UNC.
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âWe let things get out of hand,â says one official with knowledge of the guidelines. âWe have to get [the boosters] out of contacting recruits and bartering with them.â
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But wait wait all the fanboys were saying that players should be able to earn their cash .. Now they want solutions from us after the whole thing goes to hell. Where were their solutions to what they knew was coming? They offered nothing except let the players earn anything they can. Now after its all fu#"*d up .. They want solutions from us .. The woke are among us .. 
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We get it you donât like NIL
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Iâm not sure what they can do that doesnât lead to them getting sued given that it is state laws that are permitting NIL in most states. The laws are often worded to prohibit schools or intercollegiate association from restricting NIL compensation. E.g. Virginia: https://legiscan.com/VA/text/HB507/id/2574798
I guess thatâs a question for the lawyers though, and I am definitely not a lawyer.
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??? What a weird paragraph LOL. You are putting words in other peopleâs mouthes and then running with those assumptions just so you can feel righteous and then randomly threw in the word âwokeâ lol. Donât get what you are trying to contribute to the actual discussion on NIL given you have already made this attempt anyways.
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We get it. You wanted to continue to exploit the players but didnât mind that coaches were earning millions per year while being able to leave jobs with no penalty and otherwise live a good life while the players did all of the physical work.
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To be fair - the athletes have been getting a $60-$100K equivalent salary with all expenses paid at very expensive schools⌠like UVA, Duke, etc. .. or even any out of state fee for public schools.
Tuition, books, room, board, per diem.
Letâs say itâs $75,000 a year value ⌠for how many hours per week annually? Including off season - thatâs about 10-15 hours a week annually for 18-22 year olds ⌠and no real responsibilities for bills, housing, etc.
Most young people donât graduate at 22 or 23 and make $75,000 right away working 40 hours a a week - let alone 12 hours a week.
For example I worked with a scholarship Penn State hockey player recent graduate at my place of work - a large software company ⌠she came out with zero debt and a degree and started making $50-$60K a year ⌠and that was great because she had no debt paymentsâŚ
She already got promoted after 18 months and is making $80-$110K depending on sales volume.
At 24 years of age.
With no debt to start out life in the real world, if she does it right ⌠she could be a millionaire by 35.
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Heâs got an axe to grind⌠this goes well beyond NIL!
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A salary you say? Ok did they get to choose how their salary was spent? Did they get to invest that salary? Did they get to negotiate More of a salary based on performance?
I wouldnât call what they got a salary. For those of us that have real jobs those are called incentives- ie: free gym memberships, lunch served at work. When traveling the company pays for our rooms which we get to expense.
Even with the above items I would still prefer to GET money that I choose to spend the way that I prefer, even if those items were taken away. Isnât that the American dream?
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Ok - so youâre saying âŚ
no scholarship ⌠pay them $75,000 to do with what they want.
Up to them to pay all their school and life bills �??
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Graduating from college with full student loan debt vs no debt is a monumental difference for a 22 year old.
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Pay the people doing the work. Athletes make millions of dollars for schools and make coaches millionaires. The majority of those athletes will never sniff any thing close to that type of money. Yes, they get an opportunity for an education, that is becoming more and more questionable about itâs actual value. That still does not account for a fair share of the amount of money they generate, especially when schools profit off their NIL. Is the current NIL system great? No it has flaws, does that mean itâs a failure and we should go back to not paying athletes? No, hell itâs not even the athletes fault the system doesnât work. They are simply taking advantage of the opportunities provided for them. No different than a coach who jumps ship mid contract t go to a bigger school with a bigger contract when they come asking. Donât hate the player hate the game.
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I think I speak for all of us when I say:
âWhat?â
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I feel like âwokeâ is used correctly 1% of the time now. African Americans coined the term around the police brutality/social justice issues of the past few years but now it has been co-opted by other groups with varying agendas ⌠I generally try not to use that term anymore.
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