Awww true why you think theyâve been so quiet the recruiting front
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Of course. When its 60,000 as Chapelle says⌠you Rich Beeyatch⌠when it is now 16,000⌠things change
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What are you when the custodian of your coins borrowed your funds to fund his trading firm?
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Since pay for play is against the rules and any contract to guarantee that money would give evidence of rule-breaking, why would Maye just trust any of those schools?
Itâs easy: you lead the player to believe there is a promise, but donât actually make a promise. Which is a fairly routine thing that people do to each other.
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You only said this because you were copying me.
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Proly right.
I guess that premise works best when one of them is a fool.
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Sure, and there are billions of us (fools) out there. 
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Me waiting for the hammer to drop on Colorado. No way they Coach Prime isnât violating NIL and/or recruiting/transfer rules with the way heâs opening talking about and recruiting players who are currently signed to programs.
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I suspect his recruiting will be like everything else in his professional life: 1. Prime Time 2. NCAA rules
I may have NCAA rules ranked too high there.
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Do we actually think that the NCAA wants a high profile battle over NIL?
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Great point
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He wouldnât. He will require a contract like everybody else.
There no longer is any fear of getting in trouble on the payor side. They structure the contract to look like legitimate NIL (there is a clause talking about the stuff the athlete has to do to perform under the agreement) even though the athlete doesnât actually have to do anything but play ball.
Nobody is operating on faith anymore like they had to in the old days when people wouldâve never documented the payments any more than they absolutely had to and the cash came in bags.
Now the cash could come in wire transfers directly from whomever and it wouldnât matter because there is a zero chance of running afoul of anything because there is no enforcement or investigation of any of it.
But the number of players who are accepting âhandshakeâ trust type deals has to be tiny when everybody else is getting contracts. If the players want to do some research into the LLC that signed the contract to make sure it will
Stay liquid over the course of the deal, that wokld probably be wise, and Iâm sure there will be shenanigans on the payor side especially when certain players underperform or get injured and many of the payors are probably not as reliable for long term payment streams as legitimate NIL deals with companies that are actually likely to benefit and see larger revenues after the endorsement.
Iâm glad we arenât doing any/much of the fake NIL stuff. The real NIL stuff is a small amount of the money being exchanged at this point as I suspected would happen given the ridiculous rule changes, but the only part of it that is right/just and that will truly last.
The pay for play is just professionalism of college sports and has almost no redeeming qualities imo other than keeping some college athletes in college who should be pros which has a direct result of allowing fewer students to play college sports. The benefit of âhigher quality college football/bballâ for the fan is negligible at best.
I see no argument for pay for play that would not similarly apply to high school and on down. It should not be the norm, it should not be allowed at all, and to the extent it is happening, it is harming far more kids than it is helping.
I admit I havenât read the rules and only am working off of what has been reported. But I understood the one big no-no was âif you come play football/basketball at University X, we will pay you $Yâ. Once heâs at a school, then you can pay a guy something ridiculous like $1 million to make an appearance and sign some autographs. But if the former is true, and a contract is signed prior to a transfer, isnât that evidence of a violation? Maybe the difficulty is in the lack of discovery powers of the NCAA (let alone whether they even want to pursue it).
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I see @NorVaHoo responding, but want to clarify something I said a few days ago.
- NIL contract is totally fine and legal per the NCAA
- âPromise to give a NIL contract in exchange for enrolling at a given institutionâ is one of the few things that is explicitly not fine under the NCAA NIL policy (which is why I say that smart schools will probably stop short of giving such a promise â more just waive in the general direction of what could happen)
Seems like it would be evidence of a violation, but not necessarily damning on its own. I think a smart school would probably avoid it, and a smart NCAA would probably make such a thing explicitly wrong on its own, but given where we are, I could see some schools pushing the envelope hereâŚ
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Have you heard of any payors not paying at some point claiming the product the offered didnt produce etc? Happens some in SA when soccer players etc get paid by corporate sponors when the clubs cant afford the players
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I should add, the fact that all this stuff is going through 3rd parties obviously complicates it.
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