šŸ’° Name-Image-Likeness (NIL) Discussion

Can you order them online somewhere? Might have to sneak them through customs. No one tell Interpol.

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Wait I can get a signed bag too? My 2 yr old gonna love this. Already have to hide my Kihei hat from her.

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$30 NIL money for every bag too!

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Wow, crowd-sourced bag-dropping. Good idea. Now how do we do it with recruits?

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Send it to Fresh and tell me hoo you want to close on

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ā€œThe Passā€ blend. Nice.

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This is the first of many headaches John Ruiz will cost Miami and the NCAA. Also it’s pretty fitting that The U is one of the the first schools to get dinged on NIL.

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But of course it wasn’t the *Men’s team…If Miami women were provided NIL in the same way that the men were, then how do we know that the Miami men’s team NIL was done properly?

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John Ruiz is absolutely a cowboy when it comes to NIL and he puts the scrape metal king of 'Cuse to shame with the money and brazenness he is throwing it around. There is absolutely no way he is doing it all above board and by reaching out and offering portal kids contracts he’s found a loophole.

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It’s hard to follow what the infraction was. If it’s an infraction for the coach to text Ruiz, all you do is let Ruiz reach out on his own. I’m skeptical – I think this is just a way to prevent the dumbest infractions.

I’m still assuming this would be legal:

  • Cavinders: we want to make some money!
  • Miami coach: Great! While you know that [state the rule and her utter commitment to NCAA principles], some of our players have had some great opportunities, including with Mr Ruiz.
  • Cavinders: Okay, cool. Is he on tiktok? [last part inserted here just to show I know nothing about youth culture]
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I think you hit it on the head there on what likely happened. I wonder and wouldn’t be surprised if the order of events is flipped around little bit with Ruiz making initial contact, or very early contact, and if that’s the case does it then violate NCAA rules?

Again I think Ruiz and Miami have found a loophole to work within and they are using it to their fullest extent which I’m sure irks the NCAA, and will cause a continual buzz around the program.

… I miss Uncle Luke

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Yeah, I think a key part is this:

ā€œBoosters are involved with prospects and student-athletes in ways the NCAA membership has never seen or encountered,ā€ the members of the panel said in a statement released by the NCAA on Friday. ā€œā€¦ In that way, addressing impermissible booster conduct is critical, and the disassociation penalty presents an effective penalty available to the Committee on Infractions.ā€

There a few interpretations here of what the NCAA is saying:

  • You’re next Ruiz! (i.e., this was a warning shot)
  • The facts didn’t exactly line up here, but there is a means for them to punish
  • The rules on impermissible booster conduct need to be tightened up to reach what Ruiz is doing

Bit of a wild guess from me, but I think it’s the third one.

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This feels a lot like the tampering situation in the NBA. The league/NCAA wants to prevent certain contacts occurring prior to a certain moment, but all parties involved want to have that early contact, and there’s really no way you can stop them. All you can do is penalize whoever get too obvious about it.

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I guess the way it works (also the way it works in most govt agencies) is that there is an enforcement staff and an overarching body that has to approve the infractions, here – the Committee on Infractions, or COI. In this case, enforcement staff and Miami reached a negotiated resolution. That’s enough from me that I think folks can mostly understand the whole preamble:

Based on the specific facts developed during the investigation and the timing of the submission of the case to the Division I Committee on Infractions, the panel accepts the parties’ submission. The investigation did not develop any facts directly linking activities around name, image and likeness to the prospects’ recruitment to or decision to enroll at the University of Miami. During its review, however, the panel was troubled by the limited nature and severity of institutional penalties agreed-upon by Miami and the enforcement staff—namely, the absence of a disassociation of the involved booster. Further, this case was processed prior to the adoption of NCAA Bylaw 19.7.3, which went into effect on January 1, 2023, and presumes that a violation occurred in cases involving name, image and likeness offers, agreements and/or activities. Based on legislation in effect at the time of submission, the panel cannot presume that activities around name, image and likeness resulted in NCAA violations.

Although the parties asserted that a disassociation penalty would be inappropriate based on an impermissible meal and an impermissible contact, today’s new NIL-related environment represents a new day. Boosters are involved with prospects and student-athletes in ways the NCAA membership has never seen or encountered. In that way, addressing impermissible booster conduct is critical, and the disassociation penalty presents an effective penalty available to the COI.

Considering the facts and circumstances in this case, however, the panel did not determine that the absence of a disassociation rendered the penalties manifestly unreasonable or the agreement to be against the best interests of the Association. Pursuant to Bylaw 19.10.6, this approved agreement has no precedential value. The COI will strongly consider disassociation penalties in future cases involving NIL-adjacent conduct.

Interesting stuff, but I don’t know enough about what used to be permissible and what still is now (maybe I’d learn more if I read the whole thing)

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I read this situation as a test case/warning shot at Ruiz. Essentially the NCAA is seeing how far their reach and authority can go, what holes they need to fill etc. Also makes sense when take in to fact they went after this transaction with the WBB team where it would fly under the radar.

I’m just sitting here with my aluminum foil hat hoping for some chaos and juicy news. This is about as close as I get to reading a gossip column.

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Isn’t Florida changing their NIL law to allow for schools to directly facilitate NIL? I wonder how this interacts with the NCAA sanction.

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Huh, didn’t know about this, or forgot. I kinda forgot that it was the states who pushed the NCAA to make the change, tbh.

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NEED

https://twitter.com/darrenrovell/status/1635667665376165892

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That is magnificent.

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