šŸ’° Name-Image-Likeness (NIL) Discussion

I’ve been beating the drum for months that creating a system that advantages a few small catholic schools on the Acela corridor to such an insane degree would be an absolute disaster for the sport.

Which also makes me positive that the NCAA will lean into it headlong.

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This is all sorta fascinating. And why it’s hard to see an equilibrium short of a federal law. And I’m skeptical we can get a federal law on this in the near term (but maybe we can, we shall see).

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https://x.com/andy_staples/status/1924658700943290504?s=46&t=60E4X0iAKwGj-OEWmmLivA

My guess?? Absolutely not in a million years lol

The AG would make himself governor over the case— hell he’d probably win on the merits before the media circus even ensued.

Also don’t see the Texas or Florida schools complying. Not sure about Georgia and the Alabama ones. Really no reason to once one bucks it though (unless you want to pull the Clemson and sort of free ride off FSU’s legal bills). Kentucky is also interesting because they just turned their athletic department into a corporation. How does that work with this type of agreement? Also curious how that works with taxes for that entity..

Staples is also saying Tennessee wants to use this as a cudgel to get collective bargaining, hope it works!

https://x.com/andy_staples/status/1924807922237804884?s=46&t=60E4X0iAKwGj-OEWmmLivA

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The collective bargaining thing is interesting but the leverage is a bit orthogonal

So threaten to blow up the House settlement (which I think is what this effectively is) unless you get collective bargaining from a third party (Congress) whose actions are pretty much impossible to control? I mean, that’d be pretty crazy but crazy stuff happens every day I suppose.

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I’m kinda enjoying the train wreck. I figure every new destructive development hastens our arrival at ā€œthe other sideā€ of all this. Until then, may as well enjoy the show.

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NIL done turned this man into a Mormon.

https://x.com/AJ_Dybantsa/status/1924495904335102173

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It’s a for profit LLC, so tax treatment is the same as any other LLC. Even if it was part of the university, it’d probably be subject to UBIT, so the athletics income would still be subject to tax.

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This will be the funniest line I hear all day lol

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Not my legal area, but seems to me that the Tennessee law is trying to regulate interstate commerce, which, if I remember correctly, is specifically reserved for Congress and the federal government.

ā€œSuch a concept is actually addressed in Tennessee’s state law. The law prevents an athletic association from adopting and enforcing rules that violate state law and prohibits any association from ā€œinterferingā€ with a school’s membership status, voting rights and revenue distribution.ā€

This seems like the state of Tennessee is telling a non-Tennessee entity how and with whom it must conduct business with. Is it any different than Texas passing a law saying any businesses currently buying computers from Dell and selling products into Texas must always buy computers from Dell?

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Re: taxing the LLC, that’s sort of what I figured, but that sounds like a bad financial decision for them then?

Re: interstate commerce regulation, yeah I hear you there and am definitively not a lawyer, but it sounds like an anti-trust thing preventing athletes from achieving their fair market value. I guess that’s not really the Tennessee AG’s department, will need an athlete to sue, but I would still fully expect the ā€œProtect our VOLSā€ lawsuit from an enterprising state politician.

I think the main purpose of the LLC isn’t tax motivated, but rather to legally segregate athletics from the rest of the university, shielding the school from exposure to liability. And maybe FOIA requests. And possibly tax.

Here’s an article that talks about non-profit UBIT (unrelated business income tax) in relation to college athletics. I know there’s some provisions in the proposed tax package related to schools and some related to UBIT, but I can’t remember if this particular point was addressed. But maybe UT is anticipating it and wanted to make its financial reporting life easier.

https://taxpolicycenter.org/taxvox/why-are-big-time-college-sports-revenues-exempt-income-tax

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Hell, for 8 million dollars, I’ll turn Mormon, too. I’ll even wear the underwear.

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Anyone hear of the Rick pitino and St. John’s rumor??? See stuff floating around @HoozGotNext

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Well what are the rumors

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You don’t want to know

I apparently have not heard, no.

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What does it have to do with NIL?

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Guess bc he was tampering with kids within his conference, while they were still on those teams

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Doesn’t seem to line up with Dave’s ā€œyou don’t want to knowā€

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All I see are:

  1. People trying to vaguepost rumors into existence
  2. People making fun of that by spinning up ridiculous things
  3. Confused people asking ā€œwhat are the Pitino rumors?ā€
  4. That crazy CurryHicksSage guy having a deleted post about vague rumors
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