Just curious why do you think Odom, if all things equal (compensation wise), would prefer WF over UVA?
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If we wait on him for other candidates then I could see Wake trying to snag him quickly. They might have competition with Nova though.
If we genuinely want Odom and view him as a top option Iād be surprised if he chose Wake over us. I understand thereās sentimental value with his dad but weāre just straight up a better job.
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I just feel like Odom should wait out for UVA. Wake is going to be fucked in conference realignment and might be left off worse than VCU
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Could be wrong but believe it was @kendall making that point pregame. Does Odom want to coach in his dadās shadow? With the big whistle, that is.
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Not saying he does. We may have just made him more expensive for ourselves.
Itās like my girlfriend says: https://youtu.be/U-2u5jIfjxo?si=H3WS7NhHBEqns1ue
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This^
Also, thereās similar if not equal sentimental value with us Iād imagine.
RIBers
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It must be cold there in his shadow
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That reminds me. I havenāt seen that super annoying RIBer who sounded like a relative of Ronās in some days. I have him on ignore anyway, but I havenāt seen any ignored posts either. Hope I donāt ever see any more.
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Lol Iām sure they will come in and respond to 100 posts at once after a few days off
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He probably moved to an Auburn message board where heād be more comfortable.
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PJ Hall says hi. Also heās had some continuity with the core of his roster being together for several years (Schefflin, Hunter broās, etc).
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Does Rhodes lack of success at Penn State after arguably having more success at VCU than Odomās had give you any pause about Odom?
I donāt think it affects anything in my thinking since PSU is an awful basketball program, but maybe Iām not considering something. Also seems to indicate that Shrewsberry is a genius for both succeeding at Penn State and knowing to leave.
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I think we like to see trends but at the end of the day each coach is an inherently unique situation.
Looking over the years on Kenpom, Rhoades never had VCU as high as Odom has them now. And A lot of terrible offenses sub 100.
Even in Rhoades best year at VCU, they were 42nd in Kenpom and 177 ranked offense.
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Did he have more success? In year #1 for Rhoades, VCU went 18-15 (9-9) and didnāt make the NIT. In year #1 of Odom, VCU went 24-14 (11-7) and made the NIT quarterfinals. In year #2 for Rhoades, VCU went 25-8 (16-2) and lost in the first round of the NCAAs. In year #2 of Odom, VCU is 23-5 (13-2). Looks like for year #1, Odomās VCU team was clearly better while the juryās still out on year #2, although they look pretty comparable at this point in time. After years 1-2, Rhoades made the NCAAs 2/4 seasons, but, obviously, thereās no comparison point for Odom.
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Yea itās certainly hard to compare results when youāre comparing pre and post transfer portal but efficiency is the best way to go. And the metrics suggest Odom is much better than Rhodes. Also, and this doesnāt matter a ton, but VCUs supporters believe strongly that Odom is much better than Rhodes and have felt that from the day he was hired. That communicates the āeye testā part of it as obviously VCU fans have been watching all the games thus far. Eye test is important as you can often just straight up see when a team is really well coached. And VCU under Odom looks really well coached
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Welcome back! Youāre right, Iām not sure if Rhodes had better results than Odom, so I used the arguably caveat. Odomās first season was better. Second season likely better on the metrics or at least close to even. Rhodes had 4 very solid seasons after that. And itās hard to compare Odomās first season with Rhodes last and probably best season due to all the turnover from year to year. But perhaps something to ponder.
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Odom has one quad 1 win in 2 chances this year - how do we know how good they are when they play real teams?
Because things like Torvik and ken pom take into account strength of schedule, the eye test, how they perform vs the spread, etc. etc.
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Seriously, the eye test is huge. Everyone on this forum is at the very least a die hard UVA fan if not a die hard college basketball fan. Yāall know what good teams look like. Watch VCUs next game and tell me that doesnāt look like a P4 team playing in a mid major conference.
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