🏀 Next Basketball Head Coach Speculation Thread

[HoozGotNext]

Oh for sure. Just my impression from little tidbits I’ve picked up during portal season, I feel like any NIL issues UVA may have had were more a lack of preparedness and I guess organization than a shortage of available funds.

I don’t think they’ve lost anyone over money exactly, at least the last couple years when the rules (or lack thereof) were clarified. But playing the game right goes beyond just having money to spend…they’ve been too reactive while others are out in front of what’s coming.

[Jerome]

Do you get the sense that we’re learning from our mistakes?

[tonyburnertt]

@HoozGotNext

any NIL issues UVA may have had were more a lack of preparedness and I guess organization

@HoozGotNext

they’ve been too reactive while others are out in front of what’s coming.

Well I’m glad we haven’t given the people in charge extensions or anything!

[JBHoo]

I’d love to see a list of ADs who have raised more money than Carla. And not just maintained high levels of giving, but actually made gains… I’d hazard to guess it’s not a very long one.

I will defend TB forever but a lack of preparedness for NIL had as much to do with the way he looked at things as it did anyone else.

[HoozGotNext]

That was a TB thing, imo. He still wanted it handled the old way, coaches in charge of everything. Yet he wasn’t comfortable with the type of shenanigans that’s become mandatory now. Nor hired a GM type to do the job.

You don’t need a GM exactly but if not you need to have assistants fully devoted to roster management/budget planning/portal tracking. And be willing to let them do what’s necessary.

[4547Lambeth]

I’ve read that the schools planning to fully fund revenue sharing are allocating approximately 15 mil to football and the remaining 5.5 mil to everything else, mostly men’s basketball.

Other things I read are that the median P5 payroll last season was about 750k and it was expected to go up to 1.5mil this season. Kansas spent 4 mil last season which was the most. Arkansas promised Calipari a 5mil budget.

The Athletic reported player rates last transfer season.

“Starter should be $200,000-$250,000, all-conference $350,000, All-American $500,000-plus — but there are people paying double that across the board,” says one source.

“Starter: $200,000-$300,000. All-conference: $500,000-$750,000. High-end: $800,000-$2 million,” says another.

“Starter: $500,000. All-conference: $800,000-$1 million. Top guys: Well over $1 million. Some teams are getting wild as well with money in the portal,” says a third.

“Depends on position. An all-conference guard could be looking at $450,000-$600,000 and, as they’ve gotten more scarce, $600,000-$800,000. For bigs, what was $600,000-plus for an all-conference player is now over $1 million,” says a fourth.

“Starter: $200,000-$400,000. All-league potential: $600,000-$800,000. Top guys — over a milly!!!” says source No. 5

7 mil total for basketball probably puts us near the top. If you look at our 2019 roster, that’s probably 3 all conference or higher level guys, 3 starter level guys, 3 lower minutes bench guys and 3 lightly recruited freshmen. So being generous, that’s 3 mil for the big 3, 1.5 mil for Diakite, Salt and Key, and the base salary for Huff, Anthony, Clark, Stattmann, Badocchi and Caffaro. So like 5 mil on the high end?

[Hooandtrue]

Vanderbilt spent $800k on AJ Hoggard, starting pg for Michigan St round of 32 team.

Forget which two but Louisville spent $700k on their best two acquired players (think Hepburn was one of them)

[HoozGotNext]

Those prices are from a couple years ago. It’s gone up and in leaps and bounds the last few years. The latest change is on the HS side…they got next to nothing two years ago, unless they were high high end recruits expected to make an immediate impact. Now a top 50 guy expects $200-$300k right away. It’s gone from only paying for proven commodities to money to burn on speculative plays.

[4547Lambeth]

And we spent 750 on TJ Power. I found lots of resources on how much individual players cost, but couldn’t find anyone who aggregated them to a team level. I guess I could download the data and stick it in a pivot table, but that sounds like something I’d do for my day job and I don’t want to do more of that.

[4547Lambeth]

It was an article from May 2024, last transfer cycle. How much are men’s college basketball transfers really getting paid? Mailbag - The Athletic

[Hooandtrue]

@HoozGotNext

Now a top 50 guy expects $200-$300k right away.

A UNC guy on discord mentions $550k for Derek Dixon. That’s absurd for an unproven high school kid who may not even end up playing.

[HoozGotNext]

Commented without reading fully…was more about the first quote, those prices are 2022-23 rates lol On down, the others are on it. And the first part…team numbers. Way off. VT probably spends more than $750K and they might be the lowest power conference team. 1.5 median was probably true 2 years ago. I’d say $2.5 now…everybody has more available but most teams just don’t have the roster to warrant more.

[4547Lambeth]

Yeah, the 2nd paragraph was mostly from a 247 article about team budgets, but the 3rd paragraph down from TA about individual players was better sourced and more recent.

And I fully expect those to go up for this upcoming cycle.

[memgym]

I don’t really understand where all the money comes from. But in my mind it’s like the “Adopt a Child”.

One donor ponied up IMac.
Someone paid money pre-injury to make sure Gertrude didn’t bounce.

And somewhere out there the donor who was asked to pay $750,000 for a former 5 star from Duke is standing there like

[Serum114]

@4547Lambeth

And we spent 750 on TJ Power.

[EmbracePaceUVA]

I really feel bad for some of the players who completely missed out of this. Like I remember I was at a bar with Akil summer of 2014 and I jokingly said drinks were on him because he had just signed a summer league bonus (nothing huge, probably like $100-150k). And he was like I grew up with family members on welfare…we’re splitting the bill. He’d be making 5x that today.

[zh00s]

Some coaching chatter with Terrance Oglesby and Tate here: Big Blue Screen of Death, Mash - One Shining Podcast with Tate Frazier - Apple Podcasts

Start at 26:30. They think Pitino would kill it at Virginia. (Caveat that both guys are prone to hyperbole and hot takes that turn cold at times)

[Hooandtrue]

VCU at Duquense who won A10 last year and is coached by Lebrons guy 7pm,

[DFresh11]

Forget the new coach forget the GM idea. This is what we need. The manager dude or whatever that brings the mfing music and knows all the lyrics

https://x.com/cbbcontent/status/1896994205677101199?s=46&t=vx3c-OF07QBvYhNkrdgjHw

[Jwhelan33]

Can you explain where all the money comes from? No way it’s all donations.