I didnāt think you were serious lol just thought your jokes are usually more funny
Gotta work through the bad ones to get to the good ones.
Iāve been rocking my George Gervinās and bumping Chubby Checkers on the phonogram like thereās no tomorrow. Whatcha know about that?
Looks just like Crotty
Breakin ankles
(trying not to annoy anyone who hates RS discussions, so I will put this here)
My issue with it is ā and not that I necessarily need to hear this in a presser ā is that I donāt hear the other side. Heās bringing up the PT and the obvious issue that itās hard to find time for 12-13 guys. Yup, of course. But it still leaves open the obvious follow-up question: okay, so why is 0 MPG a better option than ~5 MPG during a few of the cupcakes? And the only answer that I think makes sense is if you see a tradeoff in that 5th year. And, w/r/t the 5th year, my view is that none of us are particularly good at predicting the future and 5 years is a long way away.
I actually think PT is sort of a bad reason for giving the RS; I think necessary physical or hoops development to be able to play oneās position in college is a good reason, but I donāt see that case for anyone on our team. Everyone on this team, from what I can see, seems to be ready to make contributions at the ACC level.
Also, probably an obvious implication, but I think we should be very careful about RSing anyone who has NBA early entry upside. Especially since that obviates most of the benefit of the RS.
Bond and Dunn both have NBA early entry upside. Note: upside, not āthey will be drafted early.ā Thereās a significant chance one or both wonāt even become good ACC players (thatās the downside).
I thought everyone has NBA early entry possibility at this point
How about - we shouldnāt redshirt US-bred recruits with the measurables that NBA teams are currently looking for in the first round of the draft.
That one is fair. I disagree that Bond is gonna be a sub 4 year NBA possibility but thats proly cause I am selfish and want him for 5This text will be blurred years
Edit: the fuk did I so there
I really wanted the blurred part to be 5 fucking years.
Onviously was my intention. Calling IT now
Sigh. I will bite. A) the staff recognizes the somewhat obvious value to both parties in the trade off between minimal first year minutes and meaningful 5th year contribution minutes, and has plenty of data to back up its position. While it is true that the value of the fifth year is uncertain, all evidence supports the contention that it will be greater than the value of the first year and then you have the embedded option value of the fifth year being really significant. the value of the first year is much easier to predict, and it is obviously low, and therefore the cost is low, especially if at the end of the 5 years the player didnāt turn out to develop into a meaningful contributor. B) he said fairly clearly he presents the RS candidates with the option to choose, based on various scenarios of potential minutes as best as he can predict them. i donāt know what else you expect him to do. I get that you donāt like the redshirt. Your wrong position is well established, so is it your desire that Tony just not even present the option of redshirting? If so, thatās a fine opinion to hold, but belaboring the issue so much is kind of pointless, because he isnāt changing. Iād hope youād be more pleased that the young guys have the option, so maybe youāll get your wish in seeing those minimal cupcake minutes this year. Unfortunately, those seem to be the guys that end up transferring.
The NCAA could put this question completely to rest by doing the Obviously Correct Thing and changing RS eligibility to allow for a games/minutes cap. What difference does it make whether the freshman sits out entirely or plays 17 minutes of garbage time over the course of the season? It makes no sense. Especially given the new transfer rules, which have largely blown up the old āstay here and develop for 4-5 yearsā model in which redshirting kinda made some sense.
(Itās worth noting that everyone got to āredshirtā the covid year despite having played a full This text will be blurred season.)
I agree the rule should change.
but how will Bond motivate transferring to Marquette next year if he doesnāt redshirt this year?
Basically, yes. I donāt want him to present the option. Presenting the option isnāt a value neutral option in this case.
Not for me, I enjoy it.
Good or bad*, I think the redshirt option will be presented a lot less, at UVA and everywhere. Remember Tony saying heās shifting to a 2-year time horizon? Iām sure heās not alone. And in that case, there is no program benefit to a redshirt, since thatās 4 years from now. Who knows if youāre even still here by then, kid. Plus weāre worried youāre gonna transfer so letās burn your eligibility on some garbage PT so youāll stay. The new incentives for coaches all point to discouraging redshirts.
*I think itās bad. But again, the biggest problem is the rule is stupid to begin with.
Hasnāt football initiated something like this? Thereās a 4 game/snap count I believe. Not sure why basketball couldnāt do something similar.
Yea I would be fine doing something similar to what football does. Besides we might find out someone is more ready than we thought. I can envision times when Bond would be our best choice to guard a certain player at certain times