🏀 Outside the ACC - January 2024

Seems rude of the article to classify Michigan St (and maybe Gonzaga too) with pits of despair like UCLA. Michigan St has 7 losses, yes, but 6 of them were in Q1 games. They’re still in the top 20 in most predictive ratings.

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I actually think UCLA might have some commonalities with us, in an odd way. Those international dudes were very well regarded coming into the season, showing up on draft boards. But they seem like a bad match with Cronin and maybe they were not as good or as refined as was expected.

I feel like, in our team, in the preseason, I saw a bunch of athletic and/or talented and/or skilled younger guys, some with NBA upside (RD most immediately, and obviously). And I saw some transfers who could fill important roles (competent 5, backup PG, stretch 4 providing immediate offense). But individual flaws were more pronounced than I hoped, and the whole is not really exceeding any of the parts, and now we are happy just to have our role guys back and playing well…

No one is immune to a down season, even Few is having one. Gonzaga wouldnt be in the field today and has no room for error the rest of the season really

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Where is this more than 4 years stuff coming from?

https://twitter.com/DanWetzel/status/1748081177733239040

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I suspect it’s just that the NCAA is losing on basically all of its rules, so it’ll probably lose on that, too.

It feels like we’re approaching the point where making football and maybe basketball players employees is less expensive and than the entire structure getting torn down.

I mean, seriously, that’s probably 10-12k kids nationwide who’d be affected and they’re spending millions a year failing to defend it. Just let them go and move on.

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Damnit… I coulda been a 23rd Year Senior right now! Stupid NCAA! Can you imagine if this was going on during Kihei’s Super Senior Year? This forum would’ve exploded.

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I think conferences could probably enforce 4, but I forget my autonomy conference stuff tbh. I don’t think the 4 thing is in what the DOJ joined, but I could be wrong.

What do you think @AnonymooseHoo - tbh you’ve had a better instinct with this stuff than me. Could the Power 6 all individually but not collectively decide on a 4 year restriction and then like the MWC and A-10 will take let anyone who’s taking any extension class at any campus play?

I keep thinking these and various other restrictions are sorta legal, but there’s PR and paying your lawyers and winning Pyrrhic victories like in Alston at district and circuit level.

I don’t know. I don’t know shit about how to run a good offense and I’m much more confident about my takes there than on this stuff where I ostensibly have some experience…

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Mere parallel conduct is not conspiracy

(Not a lawyer, not legal advice)

More seriously, plenty of universities have graduation restrictions on time to completion. Or similarly, I think the ABA requires you to finish law school within x years of beginning.

Once again I think the burn it all down in the name of antitrust is embarrassing. And I think AAG Kanter needs to think if he is being made a pawn of a few very rich college athletics departments.

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Too late. Busted

Read the rest - interesting take. I think I agree

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I just can’t wait to see what will happen when, in the name of antitrust, we agree that college sports cannot restrict (1) compensation (2) transfers (3) graduation requirements

It also sucks to obfuscate all the great things are antitrust laws, and antitrust enforcers do, by getting them involved in this

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Tbh, my guess is they’re not that involved. Letting the states go first seems telling. Or maybe not. I don’t know

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And also, Minnesota tied with Izzo

Just with all of this stuff, I go think about Stevens’ (RIP :/) opinion in NCAA v Board of Regents of Oklahoma and think how prescient it is

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As a non-lawyer or student of university trust law, I have a sneaking suspicion that this all comes down to the”Flux-Capacitor”. Just a hunch.

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MSU finished on a 14-4 run. Gophers were playing without their starting PG, and turned over somewhere just shy of 1 million times.

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I turned it on just in time to see MSU go on a run

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Lol the Cronin quotes in this:

https://themessenger.com/sports/ucla-bruins-mick-cronin-coach-ncaa-mens-basketball-rebuilding-program

Yeah, why would Cam Spencer wanna go start for a natty winner, that has a decent chance to repeat, that’s just a few hours drive from where he grew up (Maryland) and even closer to where he went to school last year (NJ)?

Hey! Must be the Money!

Good Times Money GIF

I mean, money is important, but that’s a weird example.

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No he should have wanted to play for a weird angry guy who throws his players under the bus: https://themessenger.com/sports/ucla-basketbal-coach-mick-cronin-berates-his-players-after-loss-you-cant-call-your-mommy

“I know you’re gonna ask me about guys’ confidence, you know, it is what it is,” Cronin told reporters after talking about the turnovers and mistakes his team made. “You can’t call your mommy, she can’t help you. You got an opportunity of a lifetime, that may not last depending on your performance.”

Maybe UCLA’s NIL situation is a dumpster fire, but this kinda smells of an underperforming coach raising the pay-to-play boogeyman to keep the heat off of him.

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