šŸ—ŗ Potential ACC Expansion & Conference Realignment

But lawyers from ā– ā– ā– ā–  and Virginia put the GoR together, so I doubt that’s possible. Irresistible force vs immovable object sort of thing. Only way around the issue is to possess all six of the infinity stones.

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Yeah, but… they still did it, and UCF got really close and probably should have made it.

No one is arguing ACC Football = SEC Football. Merely that being outside the B1G and SEC isn’t automatically a Playoff death sentence. At least right now. In a couple years, things could change. Maybe its an SEC vs B1G playoff for all the marbles, or maybe they go to 12 and the door is open wider than before.

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Here’s what I don’t understand, why is ACC basketball so undervalued? ESPN’s average regular season basketball game had a viewership of 1,376,000. ESPN’s average regular season football game had a viewership of 1,733,000. So, yes, football had a higher viewership per game; however, basketball has almost twice as many games shown per season. As such, shouldn’t basketball be considered just as valuable as football?

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Yes, agree. My point is not that it’s impossible to do from a weaker conference… I t’s that we only have one example of ā€œdid itā€ and one that ā€œshould have.ā€

Maybe things are very different in a 12 team, but my bet is that the SEC and BIG have a stranglehold on most of those spots as well.

I think a compelling case is Arkansas, which has exploded in relevance in the top-2 sports in a very short amount of time. I know both programs have a rich tradition, but before recently that was old money prestige. Mega conference money and alum desires aligned to rebuild both very quickly.

I doubt there are comps in the AAC for potential sleeping giants. And even if there are now, they may be gone in a few years.

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Sure, but the playoff has only existed for 8 seasons so there are some statistical oddities. The AAC’s record with with playoffs is just as good as the Pac12s. One appearance (Cincinnati in '22 for AAC, Oregon in '15 for the Pac12) and 2 near misses (UCF in '18 and '19 for the AAC, USC in '18 and Oregon in '20 for the Pac12).

Its entirely possible the SEC and B1G end up with a stranglehold on playoff slots and its entirely possible they don’t. We just have to see how things turn out.

Good thing we are talking about where college athletic teams will play their games and not war :wink:

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I think Washington made the playoff one year.

The other thing I’ll add about the GOR is that we’ve seen how this plays out usually: a school leaves, the jilted conference demands contract-based remedies, litigation ensues, and then a settlement happens at far less than what the contract required.

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The ACC is still alive?
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The best thing the ACC can do is improve the product on the field. There is more money to be had but frankly we have not earned it. If FSU and Miami up there game then we as a league can be in control of our own destiny instead of looking for a lifeline elsewhere…

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Naaa, ACC is done. I mean it will still exist but as many have already said in this thread, it will quickly drop further & then even further behind schools in the main two. The best of the best recruits in football will only be headed to those two leagues. Hoops may be different.
I just don’t see how the teams & league step their game up when they couldn’t do it before there was these two monster conferences.

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This is why we haven’t gotten the BIG invite yet. Have any of our players ever even attempted to throw a hay bale?

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I bet Chris Slade and Terry Kirby could throw a bale over the Rotunda

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If Coach Welsh had put them in the 4h quarter, they’d have won state. No doubt in my mind.

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ACC diehards in 2 yrs

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Sixteen years in Iowa and this is the first I’ve heard of chucking bales. Corn mazes yes, throwing straw, no.

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This was a big thing where I grew up in Tennessee. Farmers clearing fields and bundlin then tossin bales of hay into back of trucks all day long. Really tough work

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I wish I had a count of every bale I threw growing up. I delayed starting my first job after graduating college for two weeks to get up hay.

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UVA, sadly, will probably never be competitive in hay bale throwing. Sure, our players are plenty strong but they’re handicapped by their environment.

VA is only like 32nd in agricultural production among states, and most of the states behind us are the little guys like Delaware and Rhode Island and stuff.

Edit - Iowa is 2nd and Nebraska is 3rd though CA is bigger than those two combined.

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You could not be more wrong. If the athletic department would only give up on football and invest in hay bale throwing, we have all the other pieces in place. We have an excellent polo program. Polo is played on horses. Hay, as you are well aware, is for horses. QED

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