And that’s why he’s top 20 projection right now.
If a guy has #1 overall upside minus the shooting, and he was a decent shooter in HS, the potential is there. It’s not like working with Jack Salt on the perimeter.
Teams are going to look at his positives and roll the dice he’ll develop, because if he does become even an “ok” shooter, you got a steal in the middle of the 1st round. If he doesn’t, you’ve still got an elite defensive stopper, who can guard at least 3, maybe 4 positions.
Do you think any scouts see Dennis Rodman? Seriously… Rodman could make FTs though, but could not shoot or dribble, but had better & stronger hands/grip. Dunn can jump much higher and has a bit more athleticism.
Perhaps the Rodman-type player doesn’t fit in the NBA anymore, but perhaps it still could?
THYBULLE was picked 20th…
The game has changed a lot since Rodman played, and Dunn is more explosive.
Maybe Draymond without the crazy, in the seasons where he scored less. He’s had a few double digit scoring seasons, but hasn’t been most of his career. Dunn could be that good.
But neither Rodman or Draymond being 1st round picks before their skills were truly appreciated could be a big reason why we’re talking about Dunn having that opportunity now.
Was just reading that same article and found another one from a couple years back on the same website. Pretty crazy quote to look at given how much he’s struggling with his shot right now.
He needs to go if he’s a first rounder…which I think he will be easily. If he doesn’t improve his shot in another year at UVA his stock will go down more as he’d be one year older. He gone
Vulcan neck pinch form
Also… leaving early allows him to get to his second contract faster which would help maximize career earnings
I’ve told this on here before but in high school Dunn shot 43% from 3 in the 10th and 11th grade. A growth spurt and he shot 31% as a senior. If he ever does get it back he’ll be one of the highest paid players in the NBA
Watch a lot of nba and struggling to see where RD fits on a roster right now. I’ve never seen anyone as offensively inept as RD on any team. The nba is full of 6’8 long athletes. Enjoyed watching Kuminga and Johnson (hawks) go at each other a couple of weeks ago—two far superior athletes and offensively skilled players to RD—thinking not sure how RD currently fits in the nba with his severely limited offensive sklls. IMO, he should stay, develop and enter the nba as a much more polished product on the offensive end—polished is stretching it but definitely would improve by staying another year.
Replying here, as @jazznutUVA will inevitably move the quoted post here.
Here’s a guy with a limited offensive game and good defensive profile, who went #5 in last year’s draft (bonus: he’s about the same age as RD):
fuhoo? F you, too
All comes down to how “fixable” scouts think Dunn’s shot is.
Player comp:
Player 1: 6’9" 228 lb, 111.9 ORtg, 18.6% Usage, 9.1% OR%, 15.9% DR%, 10.2% Blk%, 57.1% 2P%, 29.4% 3P%, Age 22.3 (end of season)
Player 2: 6’8" 216 lb, 119.5 ORtg, 17.6% Usage, 10.6% OR%, 21.4% DR%, 9.9% Blk%, 65.3% 2P%, 24% 3P%, Age 21.3 (end of season)
Both defensively oriented forwards, athletes whose offensive game was limited and raw but seen as having high potential. Player 1 was slightly less dominant on the glass, better long range shot, less effective (but still very good) near the rim, slightly better shot blocker, higher usage rate, but a year older.
Player 1: Mamadi’s RS Junior Year (natty) / Player 2: Dunn this year.
That expression is of someone who thinks he might just have crapped his pants.
Serious queston: Why is everyone so confident that Dunn can suddenly develop an offensive game with another year in college? Why do people think college is a better place to develop than the pros – which offers better players, better coaches, better resources? And better money? And no classes?
I don’t think many players would turn down a first-round draft pick for an uncertain promise of maybe going higher in the draft in another year – not to mention the risk of going lower.
My guess: his +s and -s and abbreviations were apparently pretty good before a growth spurt wrecked that shot better than NOAH ever could. And they want that defense for another year.
Uncharitably, motivated reasoning. Charitably, a strong belief in the staff’s developmental abilities and an accompanying skepticism about the NBA’s developmental environment. I think the NBA has gotten much better as a developmental environment with the GLeague improvements and also CBA-enshrined incentives for internal development.
I’m not sure if development is exactly the right frame to think about draft decisions. To me, it’s more about what will help a guy to maximize a team’s investment and commitment to him, and relatedly to be in a situation that sets up well for earning a second contract.
Whats that famous painting? The Scream
Exactly!
Yeah imo Dunn’s baseline offense / confidence would benefit from being out of our system. If he is able to let it fly he might get back to where he should be. Then the question is whether he can develop from there in the NBA.
