I wasnāt planning on engaging with it. I figured Iād be engaging with content on our winning bowl game. Ya know because thatās what the thread is about
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Iāll make everyone a deal. Two options:
- Stop saying this is the best season in program history so that when Iām bored and checking LRA, I donāt have to say, āgee that seems wrongā
OR
- number one is fine and itās just people talking and not symptomatic of a deep psychosis in our fanbase.
We disagree on things and thatās fine. Fun, even!
What was so different pre-1960 athletics in the US?
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Iām personally just thrilled that the starting point for current discussions is that the team won 11 games, and the debate can focus on if that is good in a historical context. This is light years more fun for me than prognostications about long term success extrapolated from play calling tendencies of coordinators in an era of mass player migration.
I lost the details of the binary choice proferred in your post, but so long as we start with an acknowledgement of 11 wins, Iām on board with the debate that follows. Thank you for your contributions to UVa fandom!
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I donāt see 11 wins by any of those teams from a century ago 
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- Disagreeing about sports is fun and a good way to pass the time, particularly for those who enjoy sports message boards
- Disagreement makes me feel personally icky (hey anyone watching Plur1bus?)
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Iām not sure in the ālot of games broke our wayā
We won FSU, Louisville, Wazzu, UNC, and now Mizzou close
But we also lost State, Wake, and Duke close.
So sure we were 5-3 in close games, but itās not like we didnāt lose some heartbreakers
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Also we had some on field luck with close games but we also had lots of off-field unluck with injuries. Like if we re run season 10,000 times, in how many of them do we have the same level of catastrophic injuries. I mean we were winning close games with a 3rd string O line and a cyborg shoulder QB. We beat an SEC team without our starting RB and WR. We won several games without one of the best defensive players in the country.
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What we saw this season is a team that had depth and experience all over the field. We may have lacked the top end studs to apply beatdowns but the depth and experience allowed us to grind out close wins. I wouldnāt call it luck.
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Bear Bryant found God after USC(The real one) flew across country and put belt to ass in Tuscaloosa.
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Hereās where CFBD had the UVA PGWE for those 1-score gamesā¦
- NC State (L): 34%
- FSU (W): 40%
- Louisville (W): 13%
- Washington State (W): 41%
- UNC (W): 45%
- Wake (L): 45%
- Duke ACCG (L): 2%
- Mizzou (W): 64%
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Fair, but what if Robinson catches the ball cleanly? Or Bell in the Louisville game? The tackle against UNC inches short of the goal line? The fair catch call? Neal stripping the ball in the end zone at the sideline in Jax? We made plays, but all five of those plays went our way.
Above all, we won games, which was my main point!
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I, for one, believe this was a very good season and one to be proud of. Bunch of weirdos up in here.
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There is a 61.3% chance that those numbers accurately captured the likelihood of an event just moments before the outcome was in fact decided. Numbers, regardless of formula, lend a weight to arguments English majors can only dream of.
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Sounds good. Go find a thread where folks are saying it wasnāt a good season to be proud of and go argue with those (purely theoretical) folks.
To be clear ā the conversation you read was about whether this was our best season. Your post doesnāt even address that so you may have been reading something else.
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I am sure that 1995 was a great year, but I was in 10th grade in South Carolina and missed every game. I was 19 and a 2nd year for 1998, remember Jones was the best rb I had seen live especially when paired with Womack, Brooks had a cannon of an arm and an unshakable faith in his ability to make the throw regardless of where the safety was and Wilkins was seemingly always open. Poindexter was to the defense what Jones was to the offense: one of the best players at his position in the country, and the linebackers hit like trucks. But I was usually drunk and it was 28 years ago. So, with all of the above deference and without comment about the place in the pantheon, I will say this year and this weekend in particular was more fun for me than 1998, because Iām oldish now and use this as an escape from work responsibilities.
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This was back before our players would be all distracted because we let in girl students 
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Same
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Ah, this will get the slightly-older-than-me Hoo fans on board with Tony Elliott and this yearās team.
https://twitter.com/virginiasports/status/2005663306036789382?s=46&t=vkjgQUekzGC7z44tIfnIRQ
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