šŸ€ UVa Men’s Basketball - February 2024

My main gripe is that if you challenge or explain what the stats actually say, he just goes ā€œoh I’m just sharing them. I wasn’t saying anything on top of sharing themā€ (paraphrasing).

Which is such a cop out. You made choices about what data to pull and share and there’s a very clear message within those choices. Back it up or get outta here.

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Yep. I know what Eli has and can bring and not seeing him on the court when other guys get time is no fun for me

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He’s got twice as many turnovers as assists on the season. Might want to start there.

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Hahaha

I think Eli playing off ball with Rohde as distributor is the way. I think Rohde as a facilitator is really good and he has moves the offense well.

Rohde (PG)
iMac (SG)
Eli (Wing)

Their need to be about 35 points among that group. I like it.

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Here’s a Neckel stat…

Since December 6, UVA has had only 3 three pointers made by players not named McKneely, Rohde, Murray, Beekman or Groves.

Dunn (2)
Walker (1)

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I’m assuming that’s something he posted a while ago? Because Murray’s got a few this year, not a ton, but enough to merit inclusion.

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That can’t be correct. Taine has made multiple 3’s since 12/6.

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Whoops. It’s actually my own attempt at being Neckel.

Forgot about Taine. Added him in there.

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Lesson learned. Cherry picking stats still not easy.

Still think Dante doesn’t get enough heat for zero ACC threes. (And only two on the year…from the same game).

Kinda like saying one of our players has more TOs than assists when his TOs are in garbage minutes and or blow outs.

Atleast your idea was funny though

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To be fair, if he had more 3s made then it would mean he was attempting A LOT more. So all in all it’s good for us that he hasn’t made any.

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X has only played 120 minutes all year, and to your point Fresh, his turnovers have mainly come in three blowout losses ( Memphis, Syracuse, and Notre Dame). I wish I could spend the time to see how he does with starters/rotation guys in vs. garbage time minutes. with an offense that desperately needs to score points. He would be a welcome addition in certain situations, especially when we are down but still in the game (e.g. Pitt). Use him like JJ used Jamal Robinson back in the day (his first year). It’s hard to stay ready and be effective when you rarely/never get meaningful minutes.

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The one thing not mentioned yet on Bond is his comfort level against good competition. He seems really nervous, and it’s distinctly different from his comfort against mid majors (and even the Blue White game). Others have hit on his development needs, which I agree with as well.

Put me in the camp of he will stay, he will be better next year as a 3, and he will be in the rotation (although probably not a starter).

Doable to look at how Eli does with starters, but not particularly meaningful in my opinion because the minutes are low, depending on how you define starters.

He’s only played ~30 non-garbage time possessions (34 on offense, 30 on defense) with Reece and IMac, all coming in the TAMU to first ND stretch. Those possessions were bad but again, I don’t find looking at that small of a stretch to be particularly valuable predictively. You can get up to ~70 possessions looking at sharing the floor with just Reece or just IMac, but that’s still a small sample considering we’ve played nearly 1500 non-garbage time possessions on each side of the ball at this point of the season.

Link for those who want to explore themselves: https://hoop-explorer.com/OnOffAnalyzer?autoOffQuery=true&baseQuery=&filterGarbage=true&gender=Men&maxRank=400&minRank=0&offQuery=NOT%20("Gertrude%2C%20Elijah"%20AND%20"McKneely%2C%20Isaac"%20AND%20"Beekman%2C%20Reece"%20)&onQuery="Gertrude%2C%20Elijah"%20AND%20"McKneely%2C%20Isaac"%20AND%20"Beekman%2C%20Reece"%20&team=Virginia&year=2023%2F24&

I feel like ā€œthose possessions were badā€ is underselling it! :rofl: but as you mention, not much to be gleaned with so few possessions.

Yeah I wasn’t trying to land on that too hard, because the team started to collectively play like :poop: in that stretch in ways that make it hard to predict forward from those games.

@jphat007

Can you guys sort for ā€œplays that no one else can makeā€ by a guy on our team?

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Sure:

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End of the day, the ā€œguy who doesn’t play is better than the guy(s) who doā€ arguments are tired and pointless because it is 110% speculation and opinion. The coaching staff sees enough both in practices and in games to make the educated decision on how to give minutes; we don’t. Why can’t we just leave it at that?

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