Hereās my view on this and of course itās the definitive view.
Could Kadin or Papi help the current team? Sure.
Do they raise the overall ceiling of this group? Slightly but Iād still peg them 6-8ish seed vs 7-9. So lots of what ifs there.
Does their presence help the long term prognosis of the program? Not really. I like blooding all these young guys and turning a fresh page for the program. I believe the reset was needed for players coaches and fans. To hold on to a few vestiges of the past with no real significant upside is allowing ourselves to be held prisoners by nostalgia.
All the best to the Face Mauler and World Softest 5. Thanks for your service and good luck on your future endeavors. But thereās a new crew in town.
Could Shedrickās strengths have helped us this year? Sure they could.
Was his presence (not assigning blame on anyone) creating a problem for the team culture that Tony and staff want? I think so.
Sometimes you get an individual contributor that is gifted AND is toxic to the team culture. Itās painful to be without them, but itās more deleterious to be with them.
Navelgazing about the things you miss in their absence without acknowledging the baggage is just cherry-picking and it moves you nowhere.
He gone. Lotsa luck to him. Best thing now is to turn the page and focus on our guys.
Given the number of times has ā and will probably continue to ā complain to reporters and podcasters about Tony AND the Virginia program he clearly holds a grudge towards Tony. The fact that he will not stop suggests strong emotional issues, which ā I think quite clearly ā show he hates TB. Yes. Why else would he persist?
Edit: This is off topic. The original suggestion was that we were a final-four contender with him. As I said, there is NO evidence that this is remotely true. I simply mentioned his attitude as one part of why this assertion is false.
Just, for the record, I wouldnāt characterize any of this as accurate, although the definition of ādragā is certainly up for interpretation, I donāt believe giving his opinion on his role and why he left is that. He certainly doesnāt hate UVa. I think this is much more an example of ādraggingā a player than anything he said about the program.
Iām seeing a lot of assumptions about there being a toxic attitude or locker room situation. CTB didnāt just let him walk and decide to move on, he actively tried to keep him on the team and convince him to returnā¦ and CTB doesnāt do that for players that are toxic.
Hereās just what Iād say and really the most relevant part for us as fans of the program. The Shedrick situation is unique because itās one where we both wanted to keep the player, didnāt, and where that outcome was probably avoidable (unlike the Traudt situation, most likely). So, while thereās plenty of āfaultā for that on all sides, there are things that I think we can (and I believe we will, I think the addition of Sanchez goes a long way toward that) learn from it. I can safely say there wasnāt ill-intent anywhere - it was just differences of the best way to proceed and communication issues.
None of what you typed in this post even comes close to qualifying as hating someone. Being dissatisfied with a situation does not mean you hate someone. Thinking a dynamic has run its course does not mean you hate someone. Voicing those feelings also does not mean you hate someone. I assume you are going for hyperbole but none of anything Kadin or his Sabre posting parent have said remotely resembles hate
Thatās how I view the Shedrick situation. I put him in the same category as Morsell and Traudt and Nichols. I could list a lot of other players with this list, but whatās the point? We can play the āwhat ifā game, but why?
There was a guy in the program who showed potential and flashes, but was also frustrating and didnāt seem to develop. Itās not some exciting story or even a unique situation. It happens all the time.
It wouldāve been nice, but it didnāt work out. Move on.
Okay. You are right. Shedrick meant no harm trashing the entire Virginia basketball program. Also, had we been fortunate enough to retain him and bend to his every demand, then clearly would go to the final four this yearā¦no doubt! Remarkable.
Edit: I am sorry for getting emotional, but I ā me, personally ā think what he did was reprehensible and lacked humility and class. Also, I donāt think things are very different without him
āMean no harmā and hate are not the only two options lol not suggesting you need to be happy about Kadinās public statements. Or that you should agree weād be better with him or the team this year. But he hasnāt said or done anything that indicates he hates TB or UVa
No because I donāt care about an unprovable hypothetical. Itās irrelevant at this point. I do care about someone accusing a former player of hating TB without basis
Does it really matter if the team is considerably better with said player on the floor almost every single time.
My best striker on my 12U soccer team was probably the laziest player on the team. He also created about 40-50% of our legit scoring chances every game he played, for himself and others. He was fast and unselfish with the ball. But was not a great practice player at all. We went undefeated and won the league and led the league in goals. Yes we also led the league in fewest goals allowed. But he put the fear of God In opposing defenders.
I learned to live with certain idiosyncrasies for the good of the success of the team.
YES, thank you. If you would have read more carefully you would have seen that I took your position! It IS an unproveable hypothetical, but that was the point I was originally trying to make Then you come along laughing at me because I commented on Shedrickās attitude. That was NOT the original question/issue, but you continued to suggest that was the only point I was trying to make AND you seem to think that hypothetical was my assertion in the first place. Could it be that you decided to condescend to me ā and laugh at me ā because I am a woman? Others here do not treat me that way. Itās just wrong.
10 teams before us had as bad a rebounding game as we just had. 1 was a tournament team (10seed) and finished 10-10 in the Big 12. They finished 229th in rebound % that year. 1 other was Covid year and would have made the tournament. 213th in rebounding %
Can we be one of those 2 teams? Or more like the other 8?
