Virginia vs Georgia game thread

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I hate to be the contrarian, but last night didn’t fill me with lots of hope. Our offense was horrendous, and this was against a really bad team. For example, Shedrick was 0-2 (meaning he was missing and barely even getting offensive opportunities), Franklin was 1-7 from three, Beekman shot for 20% and whiffed 4 threes, and the bench combined for 9 points. Some bright spots like the transfers’ interior play, but I struggle to see how they’re going to create points against ACC teams (esp whoever is the top 4).

On defense, we looked pretty porous most of the night except for at the end. Especially worrying are the points that the packline is supposed to stop - like those driving dunks. I worry that we rely way too much on steals, which create the occasional opportunity but often leave us with poor positioning. And I’m not sure this team would know defensive rebound if it hit them in the face. Way too many second chance opportunities given up for a Virginia basketball team. And don’t get me started on the stupid fouls. Yes, some bright spots here too (Shedrick’s blocks), but way too much of a work in progress.

Yes it’s early, and we’ve seen Tony whip subpar teams into shape. But just based on last night’s game, I don’t see many signs that we’re heading in that direction. My hopes for this season rest with the possibility that the rest of the ACC seems just as bad if not worse than we are.

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That is 100% fair and accurate. That date, 5 games in, we look like and are heading for a .500 season. Can we turn it around, sure, will we? Hoo knows?

To win tonight, against Iowa and be .500 in league we need constant contributions EVERY game from Franklin, Gardner and Shedrick. Shed has to score and be a low post threat and needs to stay on the court to be a credable rim protector. Gardner and Franklin both need double figures every night, don’t care how they get it.

KC, RB, CM, KS and IM need to combine for at least 4 made 3s a game. At least

Last night was a positive in this direction, but turnovers have to be 10 or under

Rebounding, good grief, UGA crushed us on the boards, as has pretty much everybody. That has to stop on 2nd chance pts will sink us.

Continue to run when the opportunity presents itself.

KC and RB, sigh, keep shooting. Despite how horrible Reece looked I like the fact he shot when open. If he doesn’t start making some, well ya’ll know

Tony, Tony Tony. Stop messing around with lineups soon. Let guys play through fouls. Stop Sides B/M when RB and KC are both in the game. Give Carson and Igor more run. Sit down with your staff and start thinking up ways to free Jayden, Kadin and Igor on the wing/blocks

Yes, that is a long list, but not unreasonable. Most of those things have to happen for us to be above water in the league

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Game #5 vs. Georgia- Data: Per 100 Possessions

Team - Offensive Rating 101.6

Defensive Rating 85.9

Net Rating: +15.7

Individuals:

Net Rating:

McCorkle: +88

Franklin: +51

Gardner: +27

Shedrick +22

Caffaro: +21

Clark: +14

Milicic: -8

Beekman: -17

Stattmann: -67

Poindexter: -102

Offensive Rating:

McCorkle: 163

Franklin: 131

Gardner: 119

Clark: 114

Caffaro: 106

Milicic: 94

Shedrick: 90

Beekman: 70

Stattmann: 26

Poindexter: 0

Murray: DNP

Defensive Rating:

Shedrick: 68

McCorkle: 75

Franklin: 80

Caffaro: 85

Beekman: 87

Gardner: 92

Stattmann: 93

Clark: 100

Milicic: 102

Poindexter: 102

Caffaro being +21 last night may be the best indicator that net rating is flawed on a game to game basis

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Neither here nor there but in first half when Kehei lined up guarding Jabri on the wing Kihei looked at him and had a few words as the ball came upcourt. Jabri didnt respond and Kihei was not smiling. Dawg shit?

Also post game huge hug Kihei and Jabri

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I hope it was some dawg ish. Nothing wrong with giving him a reminder of the pecking order

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Right with you. I feel a little worse after the game if anything, but we won, so even a hardcore pessimist like me knows when to pull back a bit. I guess the best thing I can say is that we figured out that the floor is not the bottomless pit I was fearing, but that game didn’t quell any of my worries on offense or make me change my opinion on our likely ceiling.

I was impressed with Armaan from 2. That was good.

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appeared to be. Kihei makin me proud there. Also he is way more fun to watch in person

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There can be outliers but it tends to be accurate as a whole.
Caffaro is -2.9 on the season.
One thing it doesn’t count is the amount of times someone passes on wide open looks and gives the ball to others who have worse looks. Really hard to measure within data points - but Clark and Kody are the Kings of that.

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That’s why I say game to game I think it’s generally useful once you start aggregating

My controversial opinion: when you play a starting lineup with only one shooter and that shooter goes 1-7 from 3, your offense is going to struggle. But if that one shooter has an epically good night from inside the arc, you will be well placed to pull off the gutsy victory over a Georgia caliber team.

I guess my biggest worry is that Tony sees last night, and says “Yes! More of that!” And then we get more of that.

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Lol, yep. They can’t see anything in the offense as progress. If anything the lack of quality touches for Gardner should have them scrambling. He’s our best offensive bet on any particular trip down the court, not KC or RB coming off screens and or shooting 3s.

We’ve had 5 (4 against bad teams) games now to see if a KC RB AF line up can open up the floor to give Gardner Shed and now Igor room to operate. It can not. Time to try something else or you know, the whole definition of insanity thing…

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sorry thats all i got. felt moderately invasive taking fotos ha

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I’m not the world’s biggest McCorkle fan, but I just watched highlights and you can see the almost back to back plays where he hits a three (over Jabri) and then later, same set up, Jabri overcommitts going for the steal, distorts the defense, and Carson can dump down to Jayden for the layup, once he has the defender on his hip.

Shooters create gravity and offenses need gravity.

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Kids are all Ty fans. Love to see it. :wink:

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Gravity. I like that one. Will use and footnote my man

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Fam rocking those custom Fresh shirts I see I like it.

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they got some TV time and some their friends saw it. Kamilah things she is JJ Siwa. You will know who that is in couple years homeboy

Edit: I think Ty was secretly cheering for the white team but someone got him a giant ginger ale so his attention diverted

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Hah I saw them creeping in the background on the tele made me laugh.

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