Virginia vs Syracuse, Sat, 2 Dec, 1200, ESPN2

Just put a big X on an orange shirt, I’ll buy two

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I’m no expert on physical readiness I guess (or anything) but I haven’t seen very many people block an iMac three, and if people can do that despite lacking physical readiness, then maybe we have a bad definition of physical readiness.

My official statement on the placement and soon thereafter removal of Elijah’s redshirt: none of it makes sense and therefore no explanations of it wil make sense. You have to be willing to embrace the nonsensical-ness of it all

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Lol what are you talking about. One we weren’t talking about offensive rating, we were talking about shooting.Two, he had a 105.9 offensive rating his first year. One quick look at Miami that year showed 2 players in the 90s.

Get your facts straight

Re: Gertrude’s jump shot. FWIW, his shooting from behind the arc doesn’t concern me in the least. At the moment, Virginia has shooters, and with the addition of Sharma, it might be supposed that another is on the way. Given what I’ve seen of Gertrude so far, I would much prefer to see him develop a mid-range game off of penetration. And, since what we’ve seen to date is very limited, he may already have that skill. (His foul shots might suggest that he does.) I think he is capable of adding a whole new dimension to the offense without ever taking a 3 point shot.

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Having watched Tony’s offensive schemes over the years, I’d rather have all my perimeter players be decent 3 point shooters at the very least. I believe Elijah will be a decent three point shooter in time. If he has NBA dreams that’s going to be a must at his size.

Elijah can help without the good three point shot, but to star he’ll need it.

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Disagree slightly. He doesn’t have to be “good” he just has to be serviceable. As long as we have good shooters around him I think he can thrive with the space so long as they at least respect him from out there.

Brogdon made 1st team all ACC as a 3rd year shooting 34% from 3. But he scored in so many different ways and was lockdown just like Elijah can be.

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I think Tony’s logic is that he had enough guards and Elijah needs skill development and we can all argue that but what we think is irrelevant. I think with this team my logic has evolved that we need to play Elijah for the same reasons we need to play Bond and Buck, they have the potential to make athletic plays on a team that doesn’t really have guys that can carry the team offensively when the offense isn’t working.

I will say that IMac’s and Rohde’s play yesterday gives me hope that latter statement is less true than it appeared earlier this season. I still don’t know that they can really carry the team like Dre could when the offense is just stinking up the joint, but I think they can to a lessor degree. And we still need the frosh trio to play and develop.

If IMac and Rohde become more consistently successful asserting themselves on offense, it will definitely change my season outlook.

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Replace EG every reference in this post with Justin Anderson and smile

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As long as Elijah can shoot 34% from 3 with what other things he brings to the table that will be perfectly fine. I hope he can get there!

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So what I’m getting from this is that yours and Tony’s thoughts have evolved … but, I mean, of course they have! So don’t pick a strategy that locks in your preseason thoughts on the rotations.

I’m apparently not as big of a logic fan as all you logical people, but if I were, I’d say that’s illogical.

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He was cleared for 5 on 5 in like early October. It makes perfect sense if you consider time linear. They took their time, saw how it was going. Then coupled with Dante’s injury it was enough all together to burn the redshirt. imo it seems like a perfectly sound if cautious decision making process. If Dante hadn’t been injured, it might have take a few more weeks to cross that threshold.

So give me the logical explanation for redshirting him after blocking the iMac shot? The RS decision happened after that.

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Bro iMac wasnt even good good then. That didnt happen until yesterday

Now we are gonna have Reece!! RD iMac and Elijah going to the NBA

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Also, if we are going with the “time is linear, duh, Haney” defense on this, then injury recovery is within a logical person’s ability to comprehend, and that was within early November Tony’s abilities…

It’s one play not the aggregate? I dunno man. We are all happy here.

Not happy till I get my X merch

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It’s literally all we had to go on, given that there’s no preseason coverage of the team!

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I mean, I’m happy Elijah is playing! That’s awesome.

I am unhappy that we have a real time example of how silly it is to redshirt top 75ish players, and the takeaway is “wow, Tony did that perfectly yet again!” Rather than, wow, redshirting top 75 players is really dumb, absent extraordinary circumstances, and I really hope Tony stops that.

(I will stop on this, because, yes, I know I’m arguing with straw men … at least to a certain extent)

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The coaches and medical staff had more to go on

And realistically he’d be getting super limited garbage time minutes if Dante was healthy. So my guess is a combination of factors not just health.

The outcome and how he’s looked so far suggests to me that whatever the decision making process is, it’s fairly sound.

We now know the staff is flexible to shift based on what they are seeing with the player and the needs of the team. Tbh I wasn’t sure about this before and seeing it in practice is good.

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We know you won’t stop :joy:

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