I think (but it’s never that clear) that the men’s committee does look at NET directly. With RPI, they used to emphasize how it was just a sorting tool for quads – I think because they knew it was so bad – but with NET I think they gave up on that silly pretense. After all, they now officially look at Ken Pom, BPI, Sagarin, and more… so why would NET stand alone as “just a quad-defining tool”? But idk.
I didn’t realize the women didn’t define quads when they moved to a NET formula. Interesting.
FWIW, a couple of years ago, Jerry Palm put it in the “not nothing, but not very important” category. I agree that just using NET to define quadrants is pretty dumb. I think the most logically consistent way is to either use a pure predictive (efficiency) ranking to define quadrants, or select based off of a pure resume metric like Wins Above Bubble (with opponent strength defined by a predictive metric).
Edit: Meant to link this: Bracketology: Explaining the 'team sheets' the selection committee uses to compare NCAA Tournament résumés - CBS Sports
This guy gets it… LOL!
https://twitter.com/jtlinder/status/1602119339129409536?s=20&t=_cJdgpP2eSGnpcScOTcyKg
https://twitter.com/jtlinder/status/1602119624006504448?s=20&t=_cJdgpP2eSGnpcScOTcyKg
Through Games Dec. 11 2022
| RANK | PREVIOUS | SCHOOL | CONFERENCE | RECORD | ROAD | NEUTRAL | HOME | NON DIV I |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| RANK | PREVIOUS | SCHOOL | CONFERENCE | RECORD | ROAD | NEUTRAL | HOME | NON DIV I |
| 1 | 1 | South Carolina | SEC | 9-0 | 4-0 | 0-0 | 5-0 | 0-0 |
| 2 | 2 | Stanford | Pac-12 | 10-1 | 3-0 | 2-0 | 5-1 | 0-0 |
| 3 | 5 | Indiana | Big Ten | 10-0 | 2-0 | 2-0 | 6-0 | 0-0 |
| 4 | 3 | LSU | SEC | 9-0 | 1-0 | 2-0 | 6-0 | 0-0 |
| 5 | 4 | UConn | Big East | 7-2 | 0-2 | 2-0 | 5-0 | 0-0 |
| 6 | 7 | Utah | Pac-12 | 8-0 | 2-0 | 2-0 | 4-0 | 0-0 |
| 7 | 6 | NC State | ACC | 9-1 | 2-1 | 2-0 | 5-0 | 0-0 |
| 8 | 8 | Virginia Tech | ACC | 10-0 | 2-0 | 2-0 | 6-0 | 0-0 |
| 9 | 9 | Notre Dame | ACC | 8-1 | 1-0 | 3-0 | 4-1 | 0-0 |
| 10 | 11 | Duke | ACC | 10-1 | 4-0 | 1-1 | 5-0 | 0-0 |
| 11 | 10 | Ohio St. | Big Ten | 10-0 | 4-0 | 0-0 | 6-0 | 0-0 |
| 12 | 13 | Iowa | Big Ten | 8-3 | 2-1 | 1-1 | 5-1 | 0-0 |
| 13 | 21 | Iowa St. | Big 12 | 7-2 | 1-1 | 1-1 | 5-0 | 0-0 |
| 14 | 14 | Villanova | Big East | 9-2 | 5-0 | 2-1 | 2-1 | 0-0 |
| 15 | 12 | Creighton | Big East | 8-1 | 6-1 | 0-0 | 2-0 | 0-0 |
| 16 | 17 | North Carolina | ACC | 8-1 | 1-1 | 2-0 | 5-0 | 0-0 |
| 17 | 15 | Oregon | Pac-12 | 7-1 | 1-0 | 1-1 | 5-0 | 0-0 |
| 18 | 18 | Middle Tenn. | C-USA | 6-2 | 2-1 | 1-1 | 3-0 | 0-0 |
| 19 | 16 | Kansas | Big 12 | 9-0 | 2-0 | 1-0 | 6-0 | 0-0 |
| 20 | 19 | Baylor | Big 12 | 7-2 | 0-0 | 2-1 | 5-1 | 0-0 |
| 21 | 20 | Michigan | Big Ten | 9-1 | 2-0 | 3-0 | 4-1 | 0-0 |
| 22 | 22 | UCLA | Pac-12 | 9-1 | 1-1 | 3-0 | 5-0 | 0-0 |
| 23 | 32 | Maryland | Big Ten | 9-3 | 4-0 | 2-1 | 3-2 | 0-0 |
| 24 | 24 | Gonzaga | WCC | 9-2 | 2-1 | 2-1 | 5-0 | 0-0 |
| 25 | 25 | Virginia | ACC | 11-0 | 4-0 | 0-0 | 7-0 | 0-0 |
Still no ranking for UVA. (7 votes, putting us in 29th.) Not surprised, but I was hoping.
That means we lost a vote… we had 8 last week. Lame.
Not surprised they didn’t get ranked but still stings a bit.
What is the marque win so far? PSU? Wake?
Honestly… I’m not sure they have one… which is why it isn’t surprising they aren’t ranked yet.
Totally get it, was sat here trying to think of it and couldn’t think of anything. Like I said I get why they aren’t ranked, but still stings a touch.
Our best win is Penn State (55 in NET) on the road, by 21 points. That’s a statement game. But I wouldn’t call it a marquee win.
That distinction makes sense to me. Basically that’s not the game that gets you into the tourney.
https://twitter.com/cavfutures/status/1603876690060783616?s=46&t=j1qA6bQ47tY-PJZcvWcm-Q
Should be offered free for students bu whatever
Chalk another massive win up for the women. Perfect in the non-con
I totally forgot we had a game today. I knew we were supposed to run away with this one, but…
84-28?!
IS THAT SCORE FOR REAL?
So, 12-0. After going 5-22 last year. An absolutely unthinkable turnaround.
Yes, it’s against an easy schedule. But our average margin of victory across those 12 games is 25.9 (!). Only 3 of the wins were by less than 20 (14, 6, 3).
Mox is a miracle worker.
Yea it was 14-10 at the end of 1 i got home for the 4th and they were up 40. Apparently it was a 30 pt third qt
They lost the easy games last year. Mox isn’t, and she’ already got significant recruiting wins. Even if the ACC is a buzzsaw and losses start to mount, I don’t know that anyone could ask for a better start for Coach Mox.
I mean lets be honest. Any UVa first year coach ever start better in any sport at Virginia? Julie Meyer maybe? No clue
Don’t wanna overreact too much, but is it too early to offer Mox a lifetime extension?