2023 UVa Offseason Chatter

Happy first day of practice. Fans need to prepare for the upcoming season too. Rules changes for the upcoming season (taken from Wiki):

On May 5, 2023, the NCAA Basketball Rules Committee proposed a suite of rule changes for the 2023–24 season. These changes were approved by the Playing Rules Oversight Panel during its June 8 conference call.

  • A defender near the basket must be in position to draw a charge before the offensive player plants his foot to jump during a field goal attempt. If the defender arrives after the shooter has planted his foot, the officials are to call a blocking foul if contact occurs.

  • Prerecorded or live video can be transmitted to the bench area during the game, on an optional basis. This had been an experimental rule since 2021–22, but is now permanent.

  • Officials will be able to review basket interference or goaltending calls during the next media timeout to ensure the calls’ accuracy, as long as they were made during play. Review is immediate if a foul is called on a shot that ended with basket interference or goaltending.

  • Non-student bench personnel will be allowed to serve as peacekeepers in any altercation.

  • If a coach requests a review of an out-of-bounds play in the last two minutes, that team will be charged a timeout if the challenge is unsuccessful.

  • The shot clock will reset to 20 seconds for all offensive rebounds when the original shot has touched the rim.

  • If a player is called for a foul, and replay officials see that the foul is the direct result of a flagrant foul against the player who was originally charged with the foul, officials can rescind the foul on the victim of the flagrant foul.

  • A timeout can be granted when a player has possession of the ball while airborne.

  • A player will be disqualified if he commits three flagrant 1 fouls in a game, regardless of his overall foul count.

  • Red and amber lights can now be placed on the backboard.

  • Schools will no longer have to apply for a waiver to allow players to use religious headwear that is safe for competition.

  • All numbers from 0–99 will be allowed. Previously, player numbers could only include digits from 0 to 5.

  • Conferences will be allowed to continue using an experimental rule that allows for media timeouts to be taken at the first dead ball after the 17-, 14-, 11-, 8-, and 4-minute marks of the second half. This rule may also be used in the 2024 NIT, subject to approval by the NCAA’s NIT board.

  • Also subject to NIT board approval, the free-throw lane may be widened to 16 feet in the 2024 NIT.

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Wait, what was it before?

No one on the roster is taking advantage of this, which is a shame. Let’s get weird!

Heh, did someone actually manage to do this before they changed this rule?

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Yeah, I thought that was the case the past year or two, but maybe there were exceptions or something

On another point, should we just keep this thread going or should we open a new preseason thread? Maybe nobody cares / same either way.

  • New thread - Preseason Chatter
  • Just keep this one
  • Who cares? / Neutral
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Cool, more stoppages for TV ads! Just what the game needed.

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i need a practice video ASAP

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Hey, look at this. New thread has surged into the lead!

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@AdventiveQuasar Thought it was 25 before (35 second shot clock minus 10 seconds in the backcourt).

Lol - Shot clock hasn’t been 35 seconds for a while…

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Also good luck with the charge call nuance…

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Anything that results in less charge calls is an improvement, but yeah not sure I have faith in the college refs to actually make the right call

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I think charge calls are good

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100 percent

Yeah. In my mixed up head, the clock changed from 45 to 35 a few years back, but of course it went from 35 to 30. Hasn’t been 45 since Tony Bennett was playing.

According to the NCAA, the rules change rationale is Rationale: This change makes it easier for officials on the floor because they will no longer need to determine if the action is a legal try for goal or a pass (e.g., alley-oop plays).

So I guess before if the ball hit the rim, but not as part of a shot attempt, it didn’t reset? Now it does? Can’t imagine it reset to 30. @haney @AdventiveQuasar might have other ideas.

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Primary defender-drawn charges are good. Secondary defender-drawn charges are bad.

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Yeah, I think that’s right, it didn’t reset before on non-shot rim touches.

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Struggling to figure out what that might be, but then all of a sudden, some wacky situation happens, and you realize there’s no rule.

One of my least favorite moments from last year was the way the ACC office tried to explain the bang-bang call at the end of the game with Dunn, Reece, and Flip. Wound up just confusing themselves…

(not to dredge that up, but I think the refs thought it was contact in real time, not enough contact on second viewing, and tried to make up something to let themselves reverse…)

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Exactly! I understand if the player slides underneath while airborn that is a block, but to be in front of a player before his *last step? If the player is continually dribbing, how will you know what his last step is? It’s easier to determine if they’re picking up the ball and taking two steps to the basket but it’s just a very hard thing to judge, so we will see!

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For the shot clock to be reset it has to be a shot that hits the rim. A pass or a deflected ball that hit did not reset it previously.
I’ve actually had it happen probably at least 10-12 times over 17 years.

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They are basically going directly to the NBA rule. It’s actually easier to officiate it this way with a big caveat - it takes a ton of repetition doing it. Methinks there will be serious growing pains with it this whole season. The official watches the driver plant his last foot and immediate looks to the defender to see if he is set with 2 feet on the floor facing his opponent (for secondary defenders).
Or if the official is doing it right, he officiates the defender and sees when he gets 2 feet on the floor while facing the opponent and immediately looks at the driver to see if he has planted his takeoff foot yet.

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