Yeah Iād support getting rid of Des and Gaither but Iām skeptical of who we could realistically hire that would make any sort of difference next year. Like sure, If Shawn Clark wants to reunite with his former QB Taylor Lamb? Iād support that (he could also potentially audition for the HC job in that situation). But thereās not much value in firing Des just to go search for an equally unattractive candidate.
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Yeah thereās no scenario in which he says āyes Iām going to fire someoneā publicly before heās actually made that decision privately. I guess he could have said something like āwe need to evaluate all aspects of program and fix things as needed.ā
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I am (or was) a cowboys fan, and this year I have been joking that I ārenouncedā my fandom and havenāt been watching any of their games this year. This all has a very similar vibe:
- Season ended in embarrassing but all too familiar fashion
- No changes to HC despite everyone with eyes being able to see that itās over
- No possible way to meaningfully improve the team and their results over the previous season
Not watching the cowboys this season has been great for my mental health and Sunday productivity, and the way this is heading I donāt know why I would watch the Hoos next year either.
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This officially feels like a worse tenure than London.
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Yeah, I think there is a middle ground between āNope, no changesā and āIām firing Des from the podium right nowā and he certainly didnāt hit it. āWe need to evaluate all aspects of the programā is the correct response after a 3rd losing season and having the worst record of any P4 HC.
The problem is that if Tony fires any of his coaches, everyone he tries to hire will know thereās a good chance itās a one-year gig. Not many accomplished coaches are going to be lining up for that.
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I donāt think its particularly close? But I was young then. This is a hopeless disaster and except for the brief Colandrea flashes and the UNC game, it basically has been since the get-go.
Game 4 of the 2022 season when we looked like we had never played football before down the stretch against Syracuse was when I lost all hope, and Iāve basically been despondent since.
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I lived through the Dick Bestwick era. Talk about bad tenures!
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UNC this year was the game for me. Even after the Pitt win I just couldnāt shake getting drilled by your rival that hadnāt won in a month. A rival that would end up firing their head coach.
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Some of the most hope Iāve had during the Elliott era was the time early during the W&M game last year when we were losing. I thought if we lost to W&M to go to 0-6 we would have to fire him.
Thatās the last time I had actual hope for our football program.
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Iād say London was worse. But it aināt good that I have to think about it.
Hey speaking of did you know London used to be a detective
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London had one good season his 2nd year, which was mostly based on a few fluke wins, but there was actual good talent on that team. He shouldāve been fired after his 2-10 4th season, but I think there was some large buyout issue back then too. Plus I guess we wanted to protect the Quin Blanding Andrew Brown recruiting class. But his last 2 seasons were an absolute slog.
Right now, I think Iām feeling like I did entering Londonās last season. He was a dead man walking and everyone knew it.
Londonās recruiting classes were pretty damn good. The fact that he couldnāt do anything with that talent was the frustrating part. Elliott canāt recruit and he canāt coach.
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Look, I know everyone wants blood and change right now.
But this 100% reeks of the BOV and other powers taking a 5-10-year plan kind of approach, not a 1-3 year plan.
My read on all of this is thereās every intention to replace the staff en masse next year. As such, why bring on a new set of assistants on 3 year contracts youāll have to buy out next year, instead of just giving the current staff 1-year extensions? Elliott is a lame duck and any qualified coordinator / assistant candidate would know that before we interviewed them. Who wants that kind of job insecurity?
- Replace the AD
- Set up a better revenue sharing / NIL / roster management (incl. GM) structure
- Fix the academics hurdles
Then and only then do you hire a new coaching staff.
The alternative is coaches that come in now only to have a new boss (AD) and come out of the gate handicapped by the same academics and player payment morass that Elliott has, and then they get an extra year of losing stink on them out of the gate.
Let Elliott and his current staff take the stink for 2025 which is a lost year either way. Let the new staff come in 12 months from now with a much better foundation from which to work and actually have a fighting chance at the outset.
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Ty furnish gone.
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I know youāre right, but I still want blood this year for making me suffer the last 3.
I also donāt think we can afford to look like we donāt care at all about football with another realignment round looming.
Carla could very well be sealing us in a tomb in the fun belt here.
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Thatās where Iām at. I donāt think London was the right guy but the meddling with his staff in 2013 when it wasnāt needed didnāt help and he brought intriguing talent.
Elliott has doneā¦none of that.
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Logic, deduction, and reasoning. The destroyers of delusion.
I know youāre right, unless a miracle of all miracles happens weāre doomed in 25 so just let Elliott go down with the ship.
I just donāt want to sit in the filth for another year.
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I hope if they intend to hire a new AD, they do it in time to hire a basketball coach. Going to be somewhat more difficult to hire a good coach if he doesnāt know who his boss will be in 4 months.
When does she announce sheās gone?