šŸ€ 2024/25 Virginia Men's Hoops In-Season Thread

This is true in a certain way, I think: (1) we tend to slow up early in the shot clock when we have the ball, to ā€œcatch a breathā€. (2) we focus on stopping transition rather than crashing the offensive boards. And relatedly (3), we don’t push in transition so as to avoid turnovers.

But then the question becomes - what horizon are you at? If your North Star is trying to improve your offense, instead of your defense, your view on this stuff changes. And I’d argue that this collection of athletes/shooters is pretty much at their defensive horizon (I think, but not confidently). So to improve, you need to care more about offense, which will lead to less stout defense.

But that’s life! You can’t maximize everything; you need to maximize the overall outcome.

Score faster or take shots earlier in the shot clock?

I think if you rotate the ball enough, you’re likely going to be able to exploit the packline via 1) missed rotation (which happens more frequently) or 2) exploit a hedge / double team. Leads to longer possessions. If all else fails, you shoot a three pointer as a fall back.

Playing hard defense for extended periods of time does impact both sides of the court. Would be nice to switch things up occasionally as well in game depending on flow.

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What is true? Your response seems to be about offense, but what you quoted from me was about defense. But, whatever, as the kids say, or they used to before they got too soft even to say that.

My Polaris is maximizing the spread between AdjOE and AdjDE, which is a stat-nerdy way to say score more points than the other team the vast majority of the time. The reason I don’t care about pace is because the maths tell me a ~1 pt improvement in that spread or ~15-20 torvik ranks call it is worth roughly the same as going from last in pace to top 75, in margin terms, which just ain’t happening.

I also am pace neutral (except in that I favor a slower pace to a faster pace) but I just don’t think ā€œplaying fasterā€ is going to do shit for a team that can’t score except make the defense worse.

I think this is true in that we haven’t exerted as much energy on offense, so we have more to conserve for defense. Also, opponents always complain that they get tired playing against our defense.

Edit: what the other guys said better than I did now that I read it.

You said our excellent defense is contributory to our slow pace.

I raised three ways that our excellent defense contributes to slow pace: 1 and 3 are about how focusing on excellent defense contributes to a slow pace on offense. 2 is about how focusing on excellent defense contributes to a slow pace on defense.

Slow pace is an average of (1) our pace on offense and (2) our pace on defense. Both of which are slow.

That help?

As far as your second section, then where does that leave us? How does this team get better? Can Ron just do the ā€œtweak enough stuff so that we run through the ACCā€ like Tony could? Maybe, we shall see. But my view is that’s a good way for Ron to spend more time remembering what it’s like to be a Yankee fan.

Statistically oddity I noticed when looking up our stats to check out our player 3 PT shooting percentages…

We’ve scored 504 points this season. The points are equally distributed at 252 in first halves and 252 in second halves.

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At least we are consistent

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Sooo… Bliss soon?

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Just reading his Instagram posts I believe CB will be playing tomorrow. Man I hope so

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Available to play and playing are two different things. Unless Bliss had been killing it in practice I suspect Ron keeps the rotation tight tomorrow.

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If he’s ready to play i can’t help but believe he may get a little time. You may be right..

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@HoozGotNext been pretty open that Bliss - even when cleared - was behind the 8 ball with Ron.

Doubt he sees the floor game 1 on the road in the ACC opener

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That’s right. I didn’t think of that. Just got a little excited for him

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I am too - I want him to play. Just don’t think it’ll happen

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Just remember, the fact that he hasn’t been playing does not mean that he’s not terrible.

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Someone bound to get in foul trouble. Think we see him if he’s healthy!

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I imagine he’ll get some minutes given how awful our turnover situation is

Foul trouble, injuries, and suspensions happen. I bet we see him at home against Bethune Cookman.

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And the fact we don’t have an actual PG

We heard every offseason that pace was going up. This season had more rumbling, potentially more corroboration, but the rational response was always to bet against a pace increase given our 15 years of Bennettball.

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