šŸ€ 2024/25 Virginia Men's Hoops In-Season Thread

Kon starts on a top 5 team. Go and compare his stats to IMac and explain how McKneely wouldn’t start on basically any team in the country. McKneely more points, more assists, and significantly better from 3.

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I’m always quick to defend iMac, but I’d take Kon all day over him (purely based on bball ability and ignoring KK’s douchebaggery). He’s a much better multi-level scorer (and mmmm……FT%).

iMac is a very good but not quite great player. He’s starting most places. The better the pieces around him, the better he would be.

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Yeah. Imagine him on a squad with multiple guards who could take their man off the dribble, and a big with post up ability. Wide open 3s all day.

I feel like IMac is a force multiplier. His shooting makes everyone else better. It’s hard to know what it would look like if he was playing with a bunch of all Americans.

I think ā€œhe already didā€ is an ironclad rebuttal of ā€œhe wouldn’tā€. Also why strawman by leaving out the February ranking or most of 22/23?

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Easy to know. He’d be much better. He’s really good now, but pretty easy for the opponent to scheme to take away, especially good opponents. Look at his games vs FL, TENN, SJU. Also, look how his ortg has trended up since dai dai started to suck less.

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Yeah they were able to do this because there is no one else to punish opposing teams if they focus on iMac. Echoing @Jerome this is all going to look so silly when there is a bidding war for him between a bunch of top tier teams this offseason.

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Sorry, missed February. Basic point remains, as much it pains me, we were not a top 25 team last year. Unless you define top 25 to mean any team that was ranked in the top 25 at any point, which is probably about 40 teams. And then you’re defining about 40 teams as top 25 teams which doesn’t seem to be a useful definition.

But on the iMac point - he’s one I would like to keep (other than all of them, who I’d also like to keep). But I also think we need much better talent. And I know those two things are contradictory

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I don’t know that I’ve ever even seen iMacs mom.

iMac >>> Kon

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lol - IMac started 1 game in 2022-23 … so I guess you’re calling him a starter? :joy::joy:

Agree. Miss Holly is a wonderful person

My mistake. He did play 54% of minutes as a sixth man.

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iMac is what you call an elite conversion point on offense and is a player that you ideally try to hide on defense.

If you surround him with four guys who defend well and then at least enough who can create on offense (either off the dribble or command help in the post) then he’s exactly what you want because he improves your percentage of made opportunities without giving it back on the defensive end (if you can put him on the worst offensive guard and support with quality help).

On a team like ours - he’s much less impactful. Sure, there are going to be possessions where we score that we wouldn’t otherwise because he makes a really hard shot - but he’s going to give much of it back on the defensive end and you’re also getting more possessions like that to begin with because he isn’t providing any relief to the other players like him who also are less efficient conversion points.

Point being - he’s the kind of player who makes really good players/teams better than they would be otherwise, but who doesn’t do the same (at least nowhere to the same degree) for mediocre players/teams.

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iMac is going to to go to Kentucky next year and light it up. He’ll have guards who can get to the bucket and spacing created from Pope’s offense. Hate it - but would be a good fit for him

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You guys keep forgetting WVU.

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Really don’t understand why iMac is a defensive liability and not better attacking the rim. When you watch his jump shot he gets really good elevation. But on drives he struggles to elevate over defenders.

I could totally see him at WVU, but if Kentucky wants you in the Kriisa/Brea role that feels like a very easy decision. Lexington is the same distance from home as Morgantown.

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I wonder this, too. I think it’s a confidence issue impacting quick decision-making and explosiveness. He doesn’t get the explosiveness he can get because he’s anticipating contact and shot blocks.

Gonna make a niche card game reference that maybe only Cuts here appreciates, but he’s much better as the ā€œpayoffā€ that needs an ā€œenablerā€ piece like a shot creator to really hum, rather than acting as the enabler himself.

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I think Guy and Williford have both said iMac has the best vertical on the team. Just doesn’t seem to translate to the court.

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