NET is maybe not super importantâŚ
https://twitter.com/evanmiya/status/2025270898656166324?s=46&t=vkjgQUekzGC7z44tIfnIRQ
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Itâs just an input for WAB at this point
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Theyâve said from year one that NET is a sorting tool manly for the quadrants (and now WAB). It doesnât even factor into the predictive metric average.
Perfectly embodies what the Bennett era was about.
https://twitter.com/jacquiefran_/status/2025341888014815654?s=46&t=vkjgQUekzGC7z44tIfnIRQ
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should jump vandy after their loss today, and TTU is likely to fall off down the stretch without Toppin. Kansas should fall onto the 4 line after today too.
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The NCAAT should be awesome.
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That made me weirdly emotional. Love that all their names are there together. Was a special time.
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When they said that I was like âhow is that possible?â until they zoomed in. Itâs a crazy detail but I love it
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Really is. The most CTB thing ever.
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Has anyone been able to confirm if players that transferred out are on there or not
Looks like Jesperson is on there, so yes.
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Which metric has been very accurate when predicting the tournament? SOR? I remember leaning on it when I was predicting weâd get in that one year, I think.
Yep. 2024. Had a solid SOR but questionable overall resume. Not sure if anything changed last year.
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I saw Darius Thompson on there too.
I wonder if thereâs any 24-25 guys on there (besides Gertrude). Or ummâŚBliss.
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I saw that Austin Nichols was even on there. Iâm assuming everyone who ever played for him is on there.
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With how poorly Notre Dameâs season is going, I wonder if they fire Shrews and - if so - what happens to Kyle Getter?
This is kind of what Iâm talking about. Thereâs a community of people that feels compelled to defend Gonzaga at all costs as if the whole world is out to get them. The reality is obviously Iâm the idiot thatâs basically alone on an island saying that that Gonzaga may not deserve the benefit of the doubt theyâre consistently given by the media and CBB fans/followers (note, Iâm distinguishing between the media/fans and the committee). Very, very few people think Gonzaga is âoverratedâ any more (for the reasons you and others have pointed out, also because itâs heresy and illicits reactions like yours). Heck, I donât even think theyâre overrated generally (though this particular team is).
I honestly have a much bigger issue with Saint Maryâs (really the WCC overall) than Gonzaga. Gonzagaâs conference competition, impossible-to-compare resume, and obvious gaming of KenPom et al, all irk me, but theyâre still objectively a very good program that deserves praise. SMC on the other hand, is a complete fraud. All 3 of those complaints apply to SMC as well (especially the analytical gaming), but unlike Gonzaga they have zero results to back it up. This is their worst team in years and theyâre still allegedly as good as a healthy UNC team and better than the Miami team we played today, according to KenPom/Torvik (so is fellow WCC comrade, Santa Clara, who has a sub 300 loss and 4-5 T100 record). Usually SMC is top 15, despite never actually ever beating anyone. This year they are 0-3 vs top 50, 3-4 vs top 100, but because they are really good at blowing out teams 150-250, theyâre allegedly a top 30 team.
We have to stop pretending that Gonzaga struggling to beat Pacific tonight at home isnât notable just because theyâre close to a âtop 100 team.â They jumped 30 spots in the last month in Torvik. Why? 10 spots for beating #187 Portland at home by 23 and 13 spots for beating #269 Pepperdine by 33. If you legitimately think theyâre the 107th best team in the country, then stop reading because youâre not going to listen to anything else I say.
Gonzaga simply need to be evaluated differently than other teams. And what that means is that a loss like the Portland loss, to a truly horrible team much worse than their ranking, in a game in which Gonzaga trailed for 39 minutes, should have a significant impact to their seeding/resume. Everyone (including the committee today by saying the Zags are a 3 seed as of today), is basically saying the Portland game doesnât matter. Gonzaga was likely a weak 2-strong 3 seed before that loss and now theyâre still a 3 seed and I bet we start seeing them on the 2 line soon enough if they keep racking up Q1 wins against Santa Clara and SMC. As a team directly competing against them for seeding, Iâm sorry but it doesnât sit well with me.
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Yeah, itâs just a couple lines
First off i didnât watch the game but did they really struggle? Their minimum win probability on KenPom was 87.6%. (EDIT: it seems like KenPomâs win probabilities must bake in priors like crazy, I see it was a five point game under five minutes) Pacific was 125 in KenPom when conference play started and 110 when the game started tonight I donât think you can say theyâve been gaming the system in conference play.
Mainly I just simply disagree that a 28-1 team with a 14-1 Q 1/2 record would be a three seed so Gonzaga clearly got punished for the loss.