If the NCAA Tournament is a crapshoot (and I think it is for most teams, especially in the first weekend), then why would you want force this team to throw the dice more times than necessary by having them play in Dayton?
I should add that I have no idea how to play craps or throw dice, so all of this should be taken with a grain of saltâŚ
Maybe this belongs on the Stats Nerd thread, but Iâm curious how much a blowout win against decent-to-good competition affects your perception of a teamâs quality. We all see how much they move the needle for efficiency metrics, but would you all consider Wake the 21st best team in the country right now after drubbing Pitt?
People keep mentioning Dayton. What is the issue with Dayton as I may have missed it?
Itâs the play-in location, so people are using it as shorthand for being in that game.
Lol as soon as I posted the message I continued reading and then saw that it was for the play-in round. 
Thanks for the response!
Actually, Joe Lunardi was clear before the Wake/Pitt game that a loss by Pitt would be pretty devastating to their tourney hopes, BUT a win by Wake would not move the needle for them. So, I am not sure Wake got a big boost at all. They need a Q1 win.
I think WF gets two more Q1 wins. Should beat VT on the road and Clemson at home (fringe Q1 right now). I also like their chances against Duke at home too so they could easily grab 3 more
I hope they lose them all and absolutely tankâŚexcept for Duke, maybe. They are on our tail for the double bye, so they donât get my vote at all.
Edit: Also, they are atrocious on the road, so I donât know that they will win at Tech.
Okay, so I guess people donât mind if we lose the double bye opportunity. Crazy.
Theyâve won 2 conference games on the road: BC and GT. Thatâs hurting them and doesnât bode well for @VT. But what do I know, as clearly they are going to win all their remaining gamesâŚmagically.
4 teams get a double bye. We have a two game lead on 5th place. 2-2 and weâll have the double bye. Heck, 1-3 might get it done with the number of games the 7 loss teams still have to play against each other
Much more interested in Wake finishing in the NET top 30 and giving us that Q1 win
With all the talk about how lousy the ACC is this year, arenât you worried about them looking attractive as a fourth team?
Not really. I kind of hate them and would like them to lose. Thatâs just my preference, as I would like them to be as far behind us as possible. Just my knee-jerk reaction and clearly that is different from others here; thatâs okay.
Not really. Itâs not like the committee allocates 4 slots to the ACC and says âwe have to fill these no matter whatâ. We get compared to everyone on the bubble and in that larger pool the number of Q1 wins is extremely important. Very small chance the final non-Dayton spot or the final at large bid comes down to a âUVA vs Wakeâ decision
FWIW T-rank seems to think 5 ACC bids is the most likely scenario
Agreed that beating Pitt doesnât move the needle for them, but beating them by 30 and in the process massively improving their efficiency ratings (Lunardi wasnât speaking to any of that, if his comments were pre-game) should make a difference. A team with a NET of 26 and a KenPom of 21 is getting a good long look, with the bias being to find a reason to include them. Of course, they do have to hold steady on those ratings, and thatâs hardly a given.
I donât know. The bracketology I see today has them around third team out, which is exactly where they were last night before the game. But it doesnât really matter, I suppose.
Edit: I only care about us, meaning the best seed possible for the ACCT and getting in the NCAAT. I see them as a potential problem for us, so I will vote against them. I am honestly not trying to talk others out of rooting for them.
If you want to root for teams to lose to help UVA, Iâd focus on bubble teams we didnât play (even better if the good teams weâve beaten also didnât play them). New Mexico, Nevada, Nebraska, Gonzaga, and Butler off the top of my head. Those teams going on a little slump to end the season will help UVA much more than the quality of one of our best wins declining
Real short version would be to cheer for the top MWC teams to pick up some losses against the bottom half of their conference and for Gonzaga to lose at San Francisco and at St. Maryâs. That would tangibly help our bubble case
They have a Q1 winâŚ. Florida.
Just one is thin though for Wake, they need more. This page is helpful for doing a rough comparison of resumes (I filtered it to just be bubble teams and sorted by average resume rank on the metrics that are on the team sheets that the selection committee sees):
The only other teams with 1 Q1 win are Indiana St (who need the automatic qualifier based on other Bubble Watches Iâve read), Gonzaga, and Colorado (those last two are pretty bubbly too). Thatâs where the Q2 losses hurt too.
Iâm not rooting for or against Wake, Iâm just wasting time on a Wednesday lol
I will root for them against Duke and VPI though!