According to Wikipedia itās the 15th biggest by population. Jacksonville is somehow 11th so add that to the list of trash cities.
Lived in DC 2019-2021 and I go back most every week to play music/work (Iām in grad school in Charlottesville, but my band and side are both in DC). Iāve never once seen any of what youāre describing while going all over town. Not saying this crime isnāt happening, just saying that I havenāt seen it anywhere, and it doesnāt seem to be a big deal.
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Lived there for 2 years, and while I donāt hate CLT, it literally has nothing unique. I like cities with character and it has none.
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NASCAR! And everyone in a Mustang or Charger thinks they are Driver on 485. One day Iāll roll down my window when one is in a fender-bender and say, in my hillbilly voice, āThat is a mighty 'nas car, you got there, boy! Mighty 'nas car.ā
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No different than any other city in the US. Nice job picking and choosing.
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Thatās really the thing itās nondescript. I have s similar complaint about Dallas.
@TheVanillaGorilla my mom used to have a spot on the St Augustins in Jax not much there Jax beach is okay for a night out
My question for people who enjoy places like Manhattan, Houston, and other cities that are all concrete and high rises: how do you satisfy the basic human desire to be in nature? Do you visit Central Park everyday? Go out into a different borough every day? Does that part of you slowly die until you no longer notice it?
Not really taking a cultural shot at NYC. I get some people enjoy the fast pace that I dislike. I just am curious how you satisfy that basic craving to be outside in nature. Touch grass for a lack of a better term
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Houston and Manhattan are incomparable.
But also New York has plentiful transit access to nature. And a number of neighborhoods with gorgeous parks and tree lined streets. Also, parks in Brooklyn even bigger than Central Park.
When I grew up in my suburb in SE VA, I didnāt āget into natureā that much, I just saw some trees from inside my copy pasta home.
In cities, I might not see as many trees in my yard, but I also spend far less time looking at huge highways from inside a car/walking through sprawling parking lots.
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You saying one has way more greenery than the other? Because thatās what Iām asking about
Sounds like you arenāt an outside person in general? Because I grew up the 757 and was outside basically everyday. Not talking about going deep in the Appalachian trail or anything just being outside and able hear the birds chirp. Hear the crickets in the evening
It depends what you mean āoutsideā ā I spend lots of time outside, donāt own a car, walk everywhere (in Durham now, but was the same when I lived in DC). When I was working in manhattan last summer, I would hear the birds in the morning from my apartment. I normally walk 6-7 miles a day just doing my daily routine.
For me, the fact that in DC, NYC, Chicago, you can complete all of your daily tasks on foot gives me a way better sense of connection with nature/the outdoors than I felt in the 757, where most of my life was one car trip to the next. And if you look at a map of Manhattan (let alone queens or brooklyn) you are never very far from a park. e.g., Tompkins square park in the Ev
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See I agree with you about DC and Chicago and overall point about walk ability. But I see that as a difference between those two and NYC. Even walking in Manhattan itās all car noises. But if it isnāt obvious Iām not a city person in general. Prefer mid size communities like Charlottesville or Johnson City where itās still walkable but slower paced than major cities
Great Tex Mex in San Antonio
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Jacksonville FL is a ātrash cityā? Itās currently 79 degrees and sunny here. Boats are on the river and people are at the beach. If thatās trash, then I hope no one else bothers to come here, 'cause we like it that way.
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We got birds here, and if youāre really lucky, theyāll poop on your head. People say thatās good luck. 
Obvious point, but this is all relative preference. I enjoy trees and lakes and what not, but I think the bigger variable living in any densely populated area is your relative preference / annoyance for being constantly surrounded by other people. Like, at this very moment, I can see probably 20 other apartments. If I want grass or trees or whatever else I can get that fairly easily. If you like solitude in an outside space, then yeah, cities are mostly gonna be tough. But even in NYC there are all sorts of gradients of densityā¦ Astoria has mostly low rises ā¦ UES has a ton of 20+ story high rises.
If I had my druthers (but who does), Iād like a place much like my current place in the city with a more serene spot where I could take the train to on the weekends every now and again (with my staff patiently waiting there for me, of course) ā¦ but that mostly doesnāt exist or would be super expensive so instead when Iām looking for peace, I mostly come on hereā¦
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Slight threadjack, but if you had to commute to Washington DC for approximately 55 in-office days per year, where would you choose to live?
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Depends how much money I make LOL.
DC is commutable from Manhattan on the Acela
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Iām being hyperbolic so no offense intended. Iām sure the weather is fantastic and there are much worse places to live.
Fair point. What if you were at the higher end of a middle class salary?
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