Foul! Would’ve been a poster
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to get us back to Elijah, just thought of a potential analog to the 2018-19 season. Tony inserted Mamadi into the starting lineup in the tournament despite Jack starting every other game all year (except when his back was hurt).
Perhaps Tony will shock us all and (if we make the tourney) he will insert Eli into the starting lineup in the NCAA tournament. Oh well, can’t hurt to dream : )
GO Hoos.
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This is actually a poster for, “White men can’t jump.” I kid, of course.
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Bond wide open for the dump off lol
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Thinking bigger picture.
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How do you keep your high upside, young guys engaged? Let them get minutes. Devon Hall has admitted he wouldn’t end his career a Hoo in today’s transfer portal. People will b*tch about this point, but it’s part of the equation now so get over it.
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Eli is one of the better finishers on the team. One of the only dudes that can go get a bucket. That’s a fact. Get him on the floor now to get that experience instead of when you need it in March or whenever.
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Harris has the handles but he’s not an efficient scorer. He’s performing at pace or worse than how he did at Gtown. We need him as a Reece backup but not sure he provides a ton when they’re there together.
I think it’s easy enough to give him some of Harris’ minutes when Reece is on the floor. Isaac and Rohde also as mentioned are on the floor an awful lot.
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Normally easier with your eyes not tightly shut
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Really like this post. It’s unemotional, rational and thoughtful. Thank you.
At this point, don’t really care whose minutes Eli takes, he just needs game reps so when the season is on the line he is ready. He seems like the kid who, if he has the ball in his hands with 2 seconds left, will drive to the rack, finish or get fouled (and make the FTs). He just has that aura to me; a quiet confidence.
Go HOOS.
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Groves half-way through his attempted FT line dunk
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If you knew he wasn’t going to transfer, how much would we be talking about this? My guess is very little since the chatter picked up, ironically, when we started winning and it was clear he was out of the rotation.
This simply is not even in the top 10 list of concerns I have at this point in the season.
Cool if he gets some run, as long as he doesn’t turn it over like he had been doing before he stopped getting run. But if he keeps turning it over, stay on the bench.
That’s my luke warm, but I think very unemotional and rational take, to steal another posters words.
ps Devon hall was talking about redshirting when he made that comment. Eli isn’t redshirting.
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For me, this is the calculus:
- Low chance he transfers (but as we’ve discussed in the past, I think PT is the one lever Tony has to change those odds)
- Low chance that, if he got more PT, we’d be materially better
However:
- Not much of a downside worry, given our offense hasn’t been that good, and I think he’d keep the defense good, or even better, with more minutes/comfort
- He’ll get better with more PT
- Most controversially, even though #2 above is correct (low chance we’d be better), he’s also got the best shot of being the second complete offensive player (after Reece) come mid-March. (basically, for me, the low chance of #2 above is greater than the chance of iMac or Rohde or Dante becoming complete offensive players – and partially that’s because iMac and Rohde have had ~30 mpg all season to show those flashes and we haven’t seen them).
Yes, he’s a turnover risk. That’s part of the game. But that risk, IMO, seems lower now that Dante is back and we don’t need to ask him to be the back-up PG
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I think Groves was thinking more like Homer than GOB.
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For me, the “more minutes for Eli, and fewer for Rohde” skirmish is part of a larger battle that:
- We should play more guys more minutes, generally speaking
- We should try more stuff on offense
- We should probably have a press, or at least a good way to score quickly
- Tony’s “do the same things, more or less, but just tighten it up” philosophy hasn’t worked out well in a while
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Now I’m just spamming, but this is my issue with Rohde’s “good” on/off numbers. Our “with Rohde” numbers make us like the 110th best offense or something. He’s a glue guy. But we don’t have construction paper or even scissors, or even a kiddie table to make our art, so instead we are just eating glue and slathering glue all over ourselves and accidentally glue-ing our face to the shag carpet in the rec room.
Or maybe we turned the corner, I don’t know. We shall see.
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I mean this right here is exactly why it’s being discussed if I had to guess. I used to not really worry about minutes distribution at all with younger players until the transfer era. Weirdly enough I’d be worried less if he had just stayed redshirted lol
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I think iMac or Rohde have a significantly better chance to become that complete player this year. He can’t shoot and he turns it over a ton. That is not a good combination for becoming a complete player by the end of the year
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From your lips to God’s ears, my friend. Some green shoots on iMac trying to get to the rim v. GT…
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Huge! my wife and I were about 10 rows above you in sec 115. Great game to attend. And I can concur it’s pretty awesome having a partner who gets stoked to roll up to a Virginia game.
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Agreed, but at least they can do a couple of things pretty well. They are both just missing that one ingredient, albeit different ones. I think it’s more likely that none of them would likely reach it this year
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I’m not trying to argue with Devon’s own thoughts about how he would’ve handled the transfer portal, but simply parroting a quote he gave while ago without admitting that everything has changed in college sports since his first college year, is maybe not the greatest argument. (Also, does anyone have the article/video where Hall said this? I tried to look it up, but couldn’t find it.)
I would argue that the whole development-pipeline-in-the-age-of-the-portal debate begins with the Bond and Traudt situations. Bond is still here and seems happy, time will tell. Traudt was never going to stay in Charlottesville. But I would have to think that the staff has adjusted the off-court relationship building aspects of having players go through a year-long development program without seeing much or any court time. I mean, they can’t be doing things exactly the same way today that they were in 2013-14, right?
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He’s not? If he doesn’t play again it’s same as a 4 game football redshirt by Colandrea.
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