šŸ’° Name-Image-Likeness (NIL) Discussion

You’re right KU will claim that and we all know it’s a lie. The whole point of this was to keep greedy agents out of players pockets, not make the schools into even bigger pimps.

Shout out to LRA for that, it’s why I haven’t had an issue buying stuff that’s signed by the players, happy to send them a few bucks.

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The cat’s out of the bag fellas. This is the real world now and ain’t nothing free. Personally I have no problem with Kansas taking a cut to cover costs or even profit. Business is business.

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I’m not anti NIL, far from it. I propose if the going rate is a 30% agent fee by the Uni, then players should explore the free market and find a better rate.

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Maybe Kansas has something set up like UVa has that sources deals for the kids. If im a kid I am sourcing my own shit

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Most definitely they should.

But let’s be clear, here. These kids didn’t ā€œdo all the work.ā€ The Kansas brand has a lot to do with how much they can make. It’s a lot like a mobile game. Apple takes its cut, because without apple, nobody is playing your game. This market should be less monopolistic, but still there’s only 10-15 programs that will have the platform that can create NIL potential like a Kansas. We are not one of them.

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There is a reason there are only 3 major music platforms and the vast vast majority acts are associated with them. Self distribution is hard. You pay Kansas 30% because 70% of 5x the revenue is more money.

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Maybe Kansas is lining up million dollar deals where X percent makes sense. I have no idea. but say a kid gets couple hundred for autograph session, 30 sounds frivilous to me

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Yea I get that. Also dont think I know what frivilous means anyway

Another discussion to have over beeras in any event

Edit: basically saying you got me there. 30 still way high

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True KU provides a unique platform with their previously established image etc. However, the music/promotor model doesn’t line up quite the same. Much like how SoundCloud opened the backdoor for more artist drive music, a different program could do the same for player flexibility in earning. If the athletes are only being paid commission on ticket sales there is a chance that a smaller or different school has a more rabid fanbase despite not having the KU name. Not talking about UVA at all, just being contrarian and poking holes.

Bottom line is, if I’m a player and I have the option of signing and playing with KU and that includes giving them my exclusive NIL rights and they get 30% then I’d at least want to explore and see if I can go to UNC, Tex, UCLA, UK, UL, Duke, or another passionate fanbase and get the same deal at 20 or 25%. Better yet, let me bet on myself go to a UVa, Auburn, TT, Oregon, sign a deal that allows me to freelance on my own in addition to, and then I go out and ink my own deals.

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Oh, I am not advocating that the athletes should sign away their rights for all NIL to the schools. I’m saying in the case above, it seems like KU set up a tour for these guys, and I’m ok with them taking a cut for effectively ā€œdistributingā€ them. If a guy signs a separate deal with the local Ford dealer, I’m not saying the school should get anything. And by the way, if these kids want to set up a lemonade stand by the side of the road and try to sell their autographs without the school’s involvement, then they can do that too.

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Great distinction here. This is where I am more or less on it. Also F Kansas

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Gotcha. That’s an important distinction

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They’re taking 70% of revenue, not 70% of profits. Someone’s got to pay for the venues, travel, food and other expenses. I wonder if that’s all Kansas. Then again, if it were all Kansas, they’d say players keeping 100% of profits.

I think the players did pretty well for themselves here.

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That’s a good idea. I think it would be cool for UVA bball to do something similar on maybe the Friday night before a football game this fall. Way to meet the new guys and the rest of the team benefitting everyone (not just the top 7 - sorry Justin). I think an enhancement would be to have some kind of auction of team gear but not sure how that works with the shoe company deals.

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As if they need the money, but good for them?

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I wouldn’t be surprised if big john didnt manage to hang on to much of his gross income over the years.

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I feel like he filed for bankruptcy at one point… and i think he has a fee ex-wives so that’s gonna slash into income. Also Daily was big onntour pre-Tiger which means he missed out on the big pay days.

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