Last time I checked Utah State was not in the ACC
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Did fine at Utah too. He would have been a solid 6-7 th man for us as a senior. @HoozGotNext help me with some sense here LOL im fighting everyone here.
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I guess where Iāll leave it is that I hope when we bring in a Kody-type in the future (filling a roster spot, when we donāt have a ton of PT to market, with a non-top 100 lottery ticket type guy), we get a better on-court outcome than we got from Kody. And I also hope that our roster construction is such that we are not in a position where we are relying on the Kody-type as much as we did over the past 3 years.
Yes, I realize he had some health issues while he was here.
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stand your ground true. Sometimes not being right is liberating
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Then Iām the free-est man alive! LOL!
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LOL.
If you want to say we shouldnāt be building our program around Kody Stattmanns. Sure. Was he frustrating to watch? Absolutely. He was serviceable in moments? Of course. Would we be doomed if he was our starter? Yes.
But is Kody Stattmann not an acc level player? No. Kody struggled absolutely but he also was a punching bag for the fan base as well and group think polarized the negativity A LOT. (itās like beating a joke to death but no joke). We donāt win the Miami game without his defense on McGusty. Yeah itās only one game but the fact that he is able to make such a contribution means heās an ACC player in my eyes. And if he was healthier he could have served a Nolte role on a team that didnāt have so many transfer outs/non pan outs.
he played in the ACC so by definition for sure. I think for guys to be considered PLAYERS you have to do 2-3 things at a high level. For him I cant find those things. I think his greatest skill is filling the lane on a fast break in the actual open court
I appreciated his contributions as much as I do all the players for us butā¦
Edit: atleast 3 things
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That begs the question then. Would we want 13 acc players? The team chemistry would be horrible and the transfer out rate would be high without clear playing time.
YES! acc aint what it once was as I think we all agree
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Eric Musselman approves LOL.
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People should be nice, but we are also talking hoops. Delicate balance, for sure.
Kody definitely had some nice moments on defense.
I donāt think he serves a Nolte role on a good team. That comparison has been made a lot, but Evan showed a lot more in his time here. He was a good volume shooter. He struggled a bit when we didnāt need to be a good volume shooter. But he was a top-100 guy who had a lot to contribute and wound up as a really good glue guy type contributor.
The best versions of UVa have guys like Nolte and Key and Theo Pinson (UNC example) playing the glue guy role. When you have guys like Kody playing that role, I donāt think thatās gonna be the best version of the teamā¦
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you cant casually throw Noltes name into a group of NBA level players my man. Liberate
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The issue with Kody was that he played ALOT, and so itās not like he was an end of a bench player. Maybe the best phraseology should be that he wasnāt or shouldnāt have been a top 8-10 player on the team.
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Classic shit there
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I may agree with that sentiment too (9th 10th)
I think thatās where the different definitions we have of being an acc player come into play.
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Fun convo, @Hooandtrue . Iāve gotta go work now. Okay, okay, eat lunch and run an errand. Off the internet for a few minutes anyway!
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Iām pretty comfortable saying he is not an ACC level player. His defense was certainly passable and he learned the system well, but his offense was a gigantic net negative when not in transition and his defense was nowhere near the elite bench defenders weāve had in the past (we used to play Justin Anderson, Darion Atkins, Devon Hall, etc. off the bench - thatās how deep we were). So if you want to argue he could have been BCās seventh man, I mean maybe. He certainly was not at the level of recent Virginia benches.
Here are the career numbers for Virginia players going back as far as you can on Tovikās site (2008). Itās sorted by PRPG!, which is his all around player eval metric. I pulled the numbers for guys who transferred away from us too (e.g. Baron and Jesperson). Kody is right toward the bottom between Andy Burns and Jayden Nixon. You could sort by other things if you like - the story is generally the same.
Also, I am definitely aware he was hurt during his career. But he also played significant minutes before being hurt, and his numbers werenāt any better. And he was more or less healthy during the latter part of his career.
| Player | Min % | PRPG! | BPM | ORTG | EFG % | TS % | 3 PT % | OR | DR | AST | TO |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sean Singletary | 84 | 5.4 | 7.2 | 111.2 | 48.7 | 56.2 | 36.7 | 2.5 | 10.1 | 37.7 | 20.8 |
| Billy Baron | 15.1 | 5.1 | 5.4 | 116.8 | 52.6 | 58.8 | 38.2 | 2.1 | 12.3 | 26.9 | 16.9 |
| Sam Hauser | 78.3 | 4.6 | 7.8 | 126.6 | 61 | 63.4 | 43.9 | 3.8 | 19.2 | 13 | 10.9 |
| DeāAndre Hunter | 65.2 | 4.6 | 9.1 | 120.2 | 56.4 | 60.6 | 41.9 | 6.3 | 13.9 | 12.6 | 12 |
| Sylven Landesberg | 76.7 | 4.2 | 4.9 | 105.5 | 46.7 | 53.3 | 35.1 | 5.2 | 13.9 | 19.9 | 16.3 |
| Malcolm Brogdon | 73.9 | 4.2 | 7.7 | 111.7 | 49.6 | 55.6 | 36.5 | 2.6 | 14.2 | 17.7 | 13.9 |
| Jayden Gardner | 81.3 | 3.9 | 2.8 | 106.7 | 50.2 | 55.8 | 24 | 9.3 | 19.4 | 12.1 | 14.1 |
| Kyle Guy | 72 | 3.9 | 7.2 | 113.8 | 55.2 | 57.2 | 42.5 | 1.9 | 10.7 | 11.9 | 11.3 |
| Ty Jerome | 64.8 | 3.8 | 8.4 | 113.8 | 53.4 | 55.8 | 39.2 | 1.4 | 12.6 | 28 | 15.8 |
| Mike Scott | 55.3 | 3.6 | 5 | 110.6 | 52.9 | 57.5 | 36.4 | 11.4 | 21.1 | 8.9 | 15.9 |
| Anthony Gill | 61.1 | 3.5 | 5.6 | 115.1 | 56.3 | 59.7 | 41.9 | 11 | 16.4 | 7.2 | 14.6 |
| Joe Harris | 75.3 | 3.5 | 6.8 | 110 | 54.8 | 57.7 | 40.7 | 3.7 | 11.9 | 14.6 | 15.1 |
| KT Harrell | 35 | 3.3 | 3.3 | 105 | 51.8 | 57.1 | 39.1 | 2.6 | 9.1 | 12.3 | 16.6 |
| London Perrantes | 77.4 | 3.1 | 6.3 | 112.6 | 51.2 | 55.2 | 40.9 | 1.2 | 9.3 | 24.9 | 18.2 |
| Trey Murphy III | 61.2 | 3 | 4.2 | 119.4 | 59.6 | 62.2 | 40.5 | 3.5 | 12.8 | 8.1 | 11.6 |
| Jay Huff | 36.1 | 3 | 9.8 | 119.7 | 64.9 | 65.7 | 38.6 | 9.1 | 21.9 | 7.9 | 14.9 |
| Justin Anderson | 55.4 | 2.6 | 7.9 | 108.8 | 50.3 | 54.9 | 35.7 | 4.2 | 13.5 | 16.5 | 16 |
| Marial Shayok | 40 | 2.6 | 5 | 105.7 | 53.5 | 56.5 | 38 | 3.3 | 12.6 | 12.5 | 16.9 |
| Adrian Joseph | 60.5 | 2.4 | 4.9 | 111.6 | 52.5 | 54.5 | 36.4 | 7.1 | 19 | 7.2 | 15.2 |
| Devon Hall | 54.9 | 2.4 | 5.5 | 109 | 49.8 | 53.8 | 38.9 | 1.9 | 14.9 | 16.5 | 14.6 |
| Austin Nichols | 39.2 | 2.3 | 4.9 | 107.7 | 53.4 | 54.5 | 18.2 | 7.1 | 15.3 | 5.8 | 13.2 |
| Laurynas Mikalauskas | 26.4 | 2.3 | 2.1 | 125.2 | 65.4 | 65.5 | 0 | 11.1 | 10.9 | 5.6 | 14.1 |
| Darius Thompson | 45.6 | 2.3 | 5.5 | 110.7 | 52.8 | 56 | 33.6 | 1.8 | 9.9 | 21.2 | 18.6 |
| Kadin Shedrick | 33.8 | 2.2 | 4.5 | 117.9 | 62.6 | 65.1 | 0 | 10.8 | 20.8 | 2.9 | 16.9 |
| Mamadi Diakite | 50.8 | 2.1 | 4.8 | 107.1 | 54.2 | 57.1 | 33.3 | 7.7 | 16.9 | 3.5 | 15.8 |
| Isaiah Wilkins | 51.2 | 2.1 | 7.6 | 112.8 | 51.6 | 54.1 | 30 | 10.3 | 17.9 | 10.2 | 15.8 |
| Mamadi Diane | 55.6 | 2.1 | 2.5 | 103.2 | 49.8 | 52.5 | 37.1 | 6 | 9.8 | 7.4 | 17.9 |
| Will Regan | 10.6 | 2.1 | 1.3 | 111.8 | 51.7 | 56 | 35.6 | 7.7 | 12.4 | 5.8 | 14.4 |
| Reece Beekman | 81.5 | 2 | 5.3 | 106 | 47.1 | 50.2 | 30.4 | 1.4 | 11.9 | 25.6 | 17.3 |
| Kihei Clark | 82.2 | 2 | 1.9 | 99.9 | 45.6 | 50.3 | 34.8 | 1.4 | 9.2 | 26.3 | 21.4 |
| Mike Tobey | 39.1 | 2 | 4.4 | 111.1 | 53.5 | 55.9 | 31.6 | 13.3 | 18.1 | 5.5 | 13.3 |
| Jerome Meyinsse | 27.6 | 1.9 | 1.8 | 118.5 | 58.1 | 61.4 | 0 | 8.5 | 14.7 | 2.8 | 13.9 |
| Akil Mitchell | 58.3 | 1.9 | 4.8 | 102.3 | 52 | 53.5 | 9.1 | 9.4 | 22 | 10.3 | 17.3 |
| Mustapha Farrakhan | 39.1 | 1.8 | 0.7 | 94.2 | 44.9 | 50.2 | 33.3 | 1.8 | 9 | 15.6 | 19.8 |
| Braxton Key | 59.7 | 1.7 | 4.7 | 98.8 | 47.3 | 50.7 | 27.4 | 6.9 | 18.7 | 14.1 | 19.4 |
| Armaan Franklin | 56.2 | 1.6 | 1.2 | 95.8 | 47.5 | 50.5 | 32.3 | 1.5 | 12 | 13.5 | 16.7 |
| Marco Anthony | 7.6 | 1.6 | 1.7 | 98.5 | 44.2 | 47.6 | 34.5 | 6.7 | 13.9 | 16 | 17.8 |
| Jamil Tucker | 40.6 | 1.5 | 3.7 | 109.8 | 54 | 55.9 | 38.5 | 5.7 | 17.7 | 7.3 | 16.9 |
| Sammy Zeglinski | 51.4 | 1.4 | 3.2 | 95.5 | 48.1 | 49.7 | 35.2 | 1.5 | 12.5 | 20.4 | 21.1 |
| Nigel Johnson | 43.6 | 1.3 | 3.5 | 100.2 | 44.8 | 48.4 | 33.2 | 2 | 10.5 | 19.6 | 16.4 |
| Darion Atkins | 33.5 | 1.3 | 4.1 | 103.2 | 50.8 | 51.7 | 0 | 11.2 | 17.1 | 5.5 | 16.3 |
| Paul Jesperson | 40 | 1.3 | 2 | 103.9 | 55.1 | 57.2 | 38.6 | 1.8 | 12.1 | 5.5 | 15.1 |
| Calvin Baker | 52.2 | 1.2 | 0.3 | 95.5 | 45.4 | 48.7 | 32.6 | 2 | 8.5 | 20.4 | 22.5 |
| Jack Salt | 35.6 | 1.1 | 2.2 | 110.7 | 59 | 57.2 | 0 | 11.1 | 16 | 3.4 | 18.2 |
| Evan Nolte | 32.7 | 0.9 | 4.3 | 106.7 | 51 | 53.4 | 33.6 | 3 | 9.4 | 8.2 | 14.3 |
| Tomas Woldetensae | 48.7 | 0.8 | 2.6 | 98.7 | 50.8 | 52.3 | 37.7 | 0.8 | 9.5 | 10.8 | 16 |
| Will Sherrill | 25.2 | 0.7 | 0.8 | 100.9 | 49.7 | 49.9 | 35.3 | 7.5 | 13.5 | 6.6 | 17.2 |
| Francisco Caffaro | 24.5 | 0.6 | -2.4 | 99.7 | 52.2 | 55.8 | 0 | 11 | 18.7 | 2.2 | 23.1 |
| Grant Kersey | 1.1 | 0.5 | 28.4 | 158.8 | 133.3 | 120.9 | 100 | 7.9 | 6.9 | 12.8 | 31.8 |
| Jontel Evans | 59.7 | 0.4 | -0.2 | 87.7 | 42.7 | 44.5 | 31 | 1.5 | 8.4 | 28 | 26.3 |
| Igor Milicic Jr. | 7.1 | 0.4 | 6.1 | 102 | 51.7 | 51.8 | 36.4 | 3.9 | 15.1 | 6.4 | 10.6 |
| Taine Murray | 10.4 | 0.3 | -1.9 | 101.1 | 51.5 | 51.6 | 34.8 | 5.4 | 9.5 | 2.8 | 11.9 |
| Assane Sene | 35.6 | 0.3 | -1.3 | 92.1 | 46 | 48.5 | 0 | 10 | 19.5 | 2.1 | 21.4 |
| Malachi Poindexter | 8.5 | 0.3 | -2.8 | 112 | 59.4 | 59.4 | 37.5 | 1.1 | 9.4 | 11.3 | 18.1 |
| Francesco Badocchi | 1.8 | 0.3 | 1.3 | 127.9 | 50 | 50.5 | 0 | 14.4 | 12.6 | 0 | 0 |
| Justin McKoy | 15 | 0.3 | -1.1 | 93.2 | 41.1 | 46 | 28.6 | 8.3 | 18.9 | 8.1 | 19.6 |
| Austin Katstra | 1.7 | 0.2 | 5.7 | 108.9 | 55.9 | 55.7 | 25 | 2.8 | 25.2 | 12.6 | 12.3 |
| Tunji Soroye | 16.6 | 0.2 | 2.3 | 97.3 | 59.1 | 59.6 | 0 | 10.5 | 12.7 | 1 | 30.5 |
| Casey Morsell | 44 | 0.2 | -1.4 | 87.8 | 39.8 | 42.3 | 26.9 | 3.1 | 10 | 6.7 | 12.4 |
| Teven Jones | 18.3 | 0.1 | -3.2 | 85.3 | 38 | 43.4 | 29.7 | 0.7 | 5.3 | 15.2 | 21.4 |
| Carson McCorkle | 4.1 | 0.1 | -1.9 | 95.2 | 44.8 | 44.8 | 30 | 2.7 | 12.6 | 18.1 | 16.2 |
| Ryan Pettinella | 30.9 | 0.1 | -3.7 | 94.2 | 59.6 | 52.3 | 0 | 10.3 | 11.5 | 2.1 | 24.1 |
| Caid Kirven | 1.5 | 0 | -3.2 | 90.3 | 50 | 50 | 33.3 | 8.2 | 9.6 | 0 | 25.9 |
| Rob Vozenilek | 1.6 | 0 | -2.8 | 81.3 | 40 | 39.6 | 40 | 2 | 9.2 | 16.1 | 23.5 |
| Solomon Tat | 7.1 | -0.1 | -3 | 83.4 | 44.9 | 51 | 0 | 6 | 13.4 | 6.7 | 30.2 |
| Justice Bartley | 1.8 | -0.1 | -9.2 | 76.5 | 50 | 47.2 | 28.6 | 5.3 | 23.2 | 4.5 | 28.9 |
| Andy Burns | 1.5 | -0.2 | -10.7 | 66.2 | 20 | 25.2 | 0 | 10.9 | 11.3 | 16.4 | 28 |
| Kody Stattmann | 22.8 | -0.2 | 0.2 | 88.8 | 43.5 | 45.9 | 29.7 | 2.8 | 11.4 | 8.2 | 17.2 |
| Jayden Nixon | 2.1 | -0.3 | -7.9 | 63.2 | 33.3 | 36 | 0 | 9 | 12 | 3 | 35.9 |
| Jeff Jones | 1.3 | -0.3 | -9.8 | 45.5 | 25 | 26.3 | 14.3 | 2.3 | 15 | 2.7 | 35.1 |
| Thomas Rogers | 1.8 | -0.4 | -15 | 39.1 | 22.5 | 22.8 | 21.4 | 0 | 22.9 | 9.9 | 32.4 |
| Maleek Frazier | 1.4 | -0.4 | -13.1 | 25.4 | 16.7 | 15.4 | 0 | 0 | 17.9 | 8.7 | 54.7 |
| Chase Coleman | 7.2 | -0.5 | -3.9 | 56.5 | 33.3 | 33.3 | 25 | 0 | 11 | 10 | 32.7 |
| Doug Browman | 5.7 | -0.6 | -3 | 68.2 | 55 | 50.6 | 33.3 | 1.7 | 15.2 | 21.9 | 47.6 |
| Tom Jonke | 1 | -0.6 | -12.5 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 18.6 | 0 | 74.7 |
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Caffaro dominates him in that metric!
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Yeah. Kody looks better than Caffaro in Box Plus Minus, but the stat still has him toward the bottom of the list. But he does pass like Casey Morsell, Justin McKoy, and a few others like Ryan Patinella and Solomon Tat.
I mean, overall, the stats are just not very kind to the bench guys weāve brought in recently (Morsell, McKoy, Caffaro, Stattmann, etc.)
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