I agree with you, sounds like Elliott’s going to be his own OC. I’m comfortable with a first time OC under him since that’s really a co-OC type position anyway.
If the Boyd rumors are true, I’m thinking Hagans to QB, Boyd to WR, Tujague at OL, Kitchings OC/RB.
Sintim to LB or OLB, Paul Randolph of TTU to DL, waiting for DC, Secondary/CB/Safeties/ILB and STs.
He graduated or will. I don’t see how leaving makes him not a UVA guy.
Not leaving. Going to Carolina does. UVA guys don’t play for carolina. Straight up. 128 places he could’ve gone and I’d have wished him well. He chose 1 of the 2 I won’t. At least on the field. Seems like a nice young man so no ill will towards him in life.
Agree there was nothing else for him to dp at Uva and honestly his play has been spotty at best the last 2 yrs. Plus a yr ago everyone swore that Bronco was the epitome of a Uva guy and he instilled that culture by that logic all his guys would be uva guys.
This is a business for the athletes him going to UNC doesn’t make him more ot less anything the idea of diehard loyalty is a fans ideal not reality.
Which makes complete sense. But it also means he’s not a Hoo in his core. It’s not a character flaw or anything. Not bashing him as a human. Just his place in the UVA sphere. You can’t be Hoo in your heart and play for UNC or Tech. Just doesn’t work that way.
Olu is as good as gone. Of the other guys, Swoboda and Bissinger will help stabilize the line for the next year or else we need some transfers. I’m pretty comfortable with the young guys in the 20 and 21 class moving up into starting roles, just not all of them at once. Also could use some depth there since we got no incoming OL recruits.
Faumui and Malani would be great to have back too because we need some DL depth. Right now returning experience is Carter plus Ogunloye and Smiley get some snaps when they weren’t hurt. Probably time to see if Bryce Carter, McCarron, and Horton can help at DE too.
WTF does that mean. I hate that type of speak he went to school earned a degree earn a lot of people a lot of of money.
The rest of that stuff you’re talking about is all fan mystique.
C’mon. If you or I went to Duke or UNC or VT or Maryland or another bitter rival for grad school, that doesn’t make either of any less of a Hoo.
Jelani Woods said that he’ll always be a Hoo in his draft declaration message. Didn’t mention Oklahoma State. Does it make him less of a Cowboy even though his degree says Oklahoma State?
Is UVA a rival of Oklahoma State?
Hey you are entitled to your view. I get most players this era don’t have the same attachment to their school as fans do. And I’m all for players being allows to move wherever they want. But that doesn’t mean I have to say ‘good choice’ and cheer for you if you go to a rival. If you love a college athletics program you wouldn’t play for their rival. Tim Tebow would never transfer to Georgia.
TJ Thorpe - Heel or Hoo?
Is that the guy who used UVA football to get into grad school and then didn’t even play a game for us?
Then you don’t have to say any of that. No one’s making you. But you’re actively denigrating a guy by imposing your thoughts of his motivations onto him. That’s my objection to you.
Like for McKoy, I don’t really care or think about him. He went to UNC and it makes no difference to me if he ever truly cared about UVA or hated it. I don’t wish him ill or well. I don’t care about him one way or the other.
I did not denigrate any aspect of him other than his Hoodom. An earlier comment saying we won’t miss him was more denigrating tbh. Went out of my way to say he seems like a good young man and I wish him well in life. Plus former players are doing the same thing so I’m not alone.
In the recent NCAA antitrust litigation (the recent 9-0 one at the S Ct, with the scathing Kavanaugh concurrence), the plaintiffs commissioned a bunch of research about whether “connection to school” or “amateurism” mattered more to college sports fans, and I believe the research showed connection to school was more important to fans. But the NCAA always acts as if the opposite is true. I’m all for player empowerment, but I think we need to understand the tradeoffs.
(to be fair, the pro leagues obviously struggle with this, too, but free agency is more baked in, plus at least in the NBA – which I’m most familiar with – there are financial incentives to staying put, unless I’ve got an out of date understanding of Bird rights)
I’m not usually a “Get off my lawn” guy but it would have been a classy move to thank the program and UVA v. post the UNC “committed” edit.
But I’m not losing sleep over it. And my opinions as a fan of what to do are a lot less complicated than a player in the age of NIL.
Best of luck to him. Could have used him as that empty calorie stat guy role on defense (SOMEBODY needs to tackle) but guess it frees up someone else for experience.
I think we probably have a similar viewpoint here. I’m all for the rights of players to go wherever they want. Even a decision like Taylor’s to play for a rival. But you can both support a right to a decision and not support the decision itself.
I don’t claim to have strong emotions about Noah Taylor either way, but you can’t help but see a guy doing a grad transfer to a huge rival as an erosion of something that college sports is built on.
Also, to expand on something from above, I didn’t really finish my pro sports comparison. College sports can’t beat the pros on “who has the best players” (obviously) and “quality of play” (maybe slightly more debatable), but it does beat the pros, IMO, on personal connection to the team itself.
My take on it all is you don’t have to cheer for the guy. I wont because I dont cheer for Carolina. But to say he’s not a Hoo to his core what’s the measure of being a Hoo to the core?
Im raised in and around Charlottesville. Both parents received graduate degrees from UVa (they weren’t allowed to attend when they went to undergrad) my mom worked in academics at Uva for nearly a decade including being the advisor to several on this forum. I was recruited to play for George Welsh
Ultimately I decided not to attend Uva for personal reasons. I never stopped being a fan and after graduating I became a season ticket holder for the next 12 yrs before I moved out of state. I’m still a regular donor to the VAF.
Am I not a Hoo at my core? Do I not know the secret handshake?
I don’t like it when we assign labels especially non-quantifiable ones to some kid because rhey don’t fit our version of what we think something is making the assumption that some how we know the truth and hold the keys.
At the end of the day, the young men and women taking the transfer route are doing so because they believe it to be in their best interests, especially those with professional aspirations. The better question and answer for the future is to make all of our programs ones where the players see that staying at UVa is in their best interests, both for future professional careers and for the life that comes after playing, whether that life comes after the pros or college. All those who have decided to attend (including those who didn’t attend but choose to adopt), UVa are Hoos regardless of where they end up and they will take something with them from their time in C-Ville that, as time passes, they will end up cherishing.