I think both play vs. Richmond, more out of it being a comfortable win and itās beneficial for both to get reps. I think TM will get the start for at least the first 4 games of the season.
If weāre 2-2 at the bye week, we should start AC and get him experience, because the odds of winning 4 of the next 8 games would be absurdly low. The Wake game is crucial for us, gotta have that one.
I used to get worked up about AC starting over TM, but the more I thought about it the more I realized weāre going to see them both anyways with our schedule unless things go wayyyyy better than expected. Might as well leave AC as a shot in the arm a little later in the season.
I still probably prefer giving AC as many reps as possible in whatās probably a chalked season from the start, but might as well run TM out there so there isnāt a confidence shaking QB controversy later when/if thereās struggles.
Thatās pretty close to where I am with it. I canāt imagine a world where we donāt see both QBās playing heavy minutes this season and both getting multiple starts.
Agree, so if thatās the case, I think we still want to have a 1A and a 1B, we want to have āthe guyā known for Wake Forest in Week 2, so the goal against W&M would be to let the starter (hopefully) settle into a rhythm and lead a few scoring drives against the Tribeās first team, then let our second QB come in for mop up duty, preferably before the 3rd quarter is out.
The risk, of course, is that our 1A quarterback struggles, throws picks or whatever, and our 1B quarterback outplays him, then weāve got a ācontroversyā going into Wake and/or our 1A has shaken confidence right before an ACC road date.
I canāt think of many scenarios where a 1A / 1B scenario was successful. Maybe the Trevor Lawrence freshman season, but he was also a true freshman with 1/1 future projections.
Think itās a mistake going into the season without a clear leader. Not sure this coaching staff has shown they can handle public messaging or game planning thatās just a bit more intense by not having named a QB1.
Expect this to be closer to what we see play out for better or for worst. Even against what should be an overmatched Richmond I donāt see either QB making a strong enough statement in the start that the team can put it into cruise control with the second unit taking significant meaningful snaps. I honestly donāt see either option being that convincing.
Yeah Lawrence was maybe the greatest QB prospect of all time at the time, this is a little different. From a PR perspective this has been handled pretty poorly and AC is clearly the fan favorite. From a job retention standpoint, playing AC and selling the fans on hope is definitely Elliottās best move (assuming winning games is out of the question, obviously).
What was the PR misstep? Not listening to the fans? Legit question here not looking for a fight.
Also if a coach is going into a season and taking winning off the table thatās the biggest transgression of all IMO
And to be clear, Iād stand by whoever they tab but anything short of establishing a clear starter is a bad move.
Leaving both in play means you have WR adjusting for two guys, center figuring out how each guy wants the ball (and snaps were a disaster already last year), etc.
Weird vibes in the locker room (even if they wonāt say it publically), canāt help confidence of either Muskett or AC (again, even if they wonāt say it).
Bingo. Theyāve gotta win. My serious question is if you go AC, and heās similar to what he was last year (big play but also turnovers/mistakes), is there really āhopeā going forward once the season is over? Heās still incredibly young and lacking experience, age and experience are 2 things a team thatāll be looking to gel could certainly use.
Being the contrarian that I am letās flip this whole debate on itās head. Iām taking a heel turn and blaming AC for all of this. If he just stepped up and delivered at a consistently high basis there would be no debate. But he has not and as a result is failing the program. Itās time to grow up young man and take the bull by the horns. I have full belief that CTE will play the better man. The fact that he has not said who is that man, is due to the fact that neither QB has done enough to separate themselves.
I just think our fans are (appropriately) sensitive to the concept of playing 2 QBs given past experience. I do think this situation is different. Both Muskett and AC were hand picked by this coaching staff, came in at the same time, and split time with comparable results last year. Mentally, I feel very comfortable that both guys will be able to adapt to any situation. I donāt think either will feel slighted or that the coaches are being unfair to them. Nor do I think they will perform poorly simply because PF the existence of competition/pressure from the other guy.
Do I endorse alternating them every series or quarter? No, at least not beyond the Richmond game. But I can certainly see a scenario where one guy starts, the offense is in a rut or we get into a hole, and we bring in the other guy for a spark. Again, I donāt think we do that every game, but early in the season, I do think it makes more sense to be open to playing both guys if the situation warrants it more than it does to keep a guy in just because he was named the āstarterā. Both guys have gotten plenty of reps with the 1s. Who plays should be (as Lamb said) whoever is responsible for more success on offense, however that is defined.
All this talk about AC being the fan favoriteā¦ not for me. I like TM. Heās a tough mfer and his name is fucking Tony Muskett.
That said, odds are approaching zero that we can get through this season with only one QB even if we wanted to. Given that, I donāt mind a certain (reasonable) amount of platooning. Give our offense opportunities to adjust to both, give opposing Ds more to prepare for.
I like both QBs and I think both can have reasonable amounts of success here. That said thereās a difference in having 2 playable QBs and playing 2 QBsā¦ at the very least after Richmond you have to have a clear starter and not switch unless injury or performance dictate it. Would prefer it done this week though.
Maybe this is a minority opinion, but I think taking a QB that is in a position battle to ACC media days is a pretty bad move. That was a big red flag to me.
This is mostly aligned with where I am and honestly I think the staff is probably somewhere near this camp.
I was shocked going back and looking at the stats of AC and TM from last year and seeing how even they were. It certainly did not feel that way relying on my memory of the season. But I get why the staff has played it close to the vest.
I think you trot out whoever next weekend let them get the bulk of the snaps maybe pepper in option 2 every 3rd or 4th drive depending on how the offense is moving. And then from there itās a break glass in case of emergency which looking back on both QBās there will be an emergency.
Why/how is that a red flag? Who should we have taken?
Agree Iām not seeing the correlation here. I consider myself fairly in the loop with things and even I glossed over that without a second thought and honestly forgot because itās media day and IMO doesnāt mean much of anything other than canned everything.
I imagine we will see a package with both QBs on the field, too.
As long as they donāt run a gimmick play from within their own endzone Iām fine with it. The Philly Special aināt that special anymore, every team has a version of it in their playbook.