🏀 UVa Men’s Basketball - February 2024

Men's Basketball
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They aren’t supposed to weigh trends at all. Until sometime in the early 2010’s they had the last 10 criteria but the decision was made to stop using that and count all games equally. About the only thing they are supposed to consider that would be a ‘trend’ is a star player getting an injury that would cause them to miss the tournament

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The Wire GIF

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103

The only thing that matters is where these teams stand at the end of the year. If we keep winning, our ranking will take care of itself.

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Not sure how anyone could have Clemson safely in and us out at this point, more than that UF in and TAMU over us. I mean all the team can do is keep winning and things should take care of themselves. That said IF we come out of the regular season with 22 or 23 wins and somehow get left out, we should be on that train out with FSU. I think we will get the wins. We’ll see how the committee values ACC wins.

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Clemson had a very good non-conference with wins at Alabama, TCU (neutral), and home wins vs Boise St and South Carolina and also no bad losses. They haven’t been good in conference and could choke away a tournament bid but their non-conference will keep them afloat for awhile.

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Soooo… safe to say this is how most of us feel during most games the past few years?

https://twitter.com/woodyweaver/status/1754142567896068394?t=7Zwz3ITIA4IFaruB1babrg&s=19

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107

Head to head means next to nothing. It’s about racking up good wins and avoiding bad losses. We have average a good wins nd have a really bad loss on top of bad efficiency metrics

Definitely need to keep winning

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Yep I get they have great out of conference wins. Not saying they shouldn’t be in the field. Both teams should be in. I am just saying I don’t understand how a rational analyst would have them safely in and us out at this point (after we beat them away, and Florida at a neutral site and TAMU comfortably at home) our quad wins are not bad 6-4 in Q1/2 right now.

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Because head to head doesn’t mean anything. They have good metrics and better wins by a pretty good margin

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110

You’re ignoring our worst games though. We have some really bad ones weighing us down.

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I think Metrics are overvaluing the SEC. I also believe in head to head matchups counting for something. Doubt that we agree on that. That’s ok. One thing we do agree on is keep winning and it should take care of itself.

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For sure. But as far as quad losses I think we only have one Q3 loss. The others were to very good teams and decent teams on the road. Still an anchor. Clemson did lose to Louisville by 10. Sorry edit I see that Louisville win was over Miami. My bad.

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Nothing wrong with believing that. But the committee doesn’t agree with you and that’s all that matters as far as tourney entry goes. It’s often not about deserving when comparing teams

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So does pretty much every team on the bubble.

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Totally understand. That is the reality of the selection committee.

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I will update my bracket tomorrow, the main problem is just a lack of quad 1/2 wins. 2 Q1 3 Q2 as of now, Syracuse getting blown out knocked them down into the mid 80s so that hurts. NC State is up to 77 so if they win a couple they could move up to a Q2 win.

At this point, we have to just keep playing well. We are right there, but cant take the foot off the gas. We have 8 straight games ahead to accumulate Q1/Q2 wins just win most of them and we will be fine.

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The old win games argument!

If we would have just recognized that strategy earlier in the year, we would not even be having this conversation.

(Sorry, couldn’t help myself)

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118

My very amateur guess looking at Bracket Matrix (hasn’t updated for this weekend) is there are probably 11 spots that aren’t basically locked barring a late collapse. Obviously win games and you don’t need to worry about it. Go 2-0 this week and we can ignore it all.

When you start looking at the resumes, it’s a harder bubble than you might realize. Plus serious potential for bid thievery in the WCC and MVC to take away another spot or two. After looking it over, I’m more interested in rooting against former opponents on the bubble Florida, Tex A&M, Memphis.

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Was just thinking about this. How our late season surge is going to help these teams get into the tourney by making it a Q1 game :upside_down_face:

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True.

Just saying I prefer the “win games” argument to the “Joe Lunardi is so mean to us” argument.

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