No one is letting us forget having not won a first round game in the last 5 years despite a lot of context (covid stuff primarily). It would be bigger for the programâs reputation IMO to get that first round tourney loss stink off, since many seem to discount ACC success for lack of tourney success.
After two tourney victories in whatever order, I vote ACC title every time
Agree, thatâs the counter to HGN. Restated: but if you fail to win a game in 5 years (circumstances circumstances circumstancesâŚ) since your natty, and look poised to repeat that, that gets remembered
No! Iâm not fit TO wear that crown. (See?)
Itâs interesting. I just donât see very many people talking about the fact that we havenât won a game in 2 attempts since the natty. I donât think anybody really cares except us, which is a perfectly fine reason to care about it.
I really donât think the narrative of âhavenât made it out of the first roundâ and âhavenât made it out of the first weekendâ get treated any differently by media or opposing coaches. Going to need at least a Sweet 16 to give up an ACC title
Well, yeah, or we donât get talked about at all. The latter becoming the dominant mode the further we go into the streak.
I hear that narrative in the national media all the time. âVirginia looks like a tournament team right now, but remember that Tony Bennett has 0 NCAAT wins since winning the championship in 2019.â
I donât see what poll yâall are talking about, but yeah this is the math. Need a banner to trade for a banner.
My main rule is to not let my fandom or preferences get dictated by the public conversation.
That became my rule after 2016 and the casuals and media coming out of the wordwork to make big proclamations of style and March and Tony.
Go Hoos.
I didnât vote in the poll either; donât love those stark contrast questions. Iâd love to win an ACC tourney. But I never doubted Tonyâs ability to be great in the ACC**. I do currently doubt Tonyâs ability to win in the tourney and run a decent offense.
** which is why I was never a 35%-er
High school and transfer recruits hear all of it though. They hear it from the media they hear it on social media and they hear it from opposing coaches .All of that chatter absolutely affects getting the kind of players we need to be successful.
I donât think a round of 32 solves any of that lol perception in college basketball is based upon which weekend you are around for. Round of 32 is largely treated the same as round of 64. Sweet 16 and Elite 8 are mostly treated the same. Final Four losers and national runner ups are talked about the same way. The gaps in perception are created by surviving another week
Also, practically, with how up and down this team has been their odds of winning an NCAAT game are much higher if they win the ACCT than losing by 15 in their final game before the tourney
Agree and at the same time I bet a recruit couldnât name more than 4-5 teams in the sweet 16 or how long itâs been since X team made the second weekend. Recruits donât care about that shit.
Why do you always do these âwhich of your own sisters would you rather kissâ type of polls?
I might agree for most teams⌠but not after not getting past the first round but once in the last 7 years.
It just augments the message about our slow pace, and lack of offensive ingenuity and inability to innovate in a modern offensive atmosphere.
Letâs clarify that the narrative implicitly relates not only to losing in the first round, but also losing to a couple of 13 seeds.
A quick way to see what different fans value. 
Dude if we win the first round it just becomes âthey have only made it past the first weekend once in x yearsâ and has the same impact lol it will make zero difference in either media coverage or recruiting until we make a sweet 16 again. Round of 32 solves nothing
Adding another banner to the rafters of John Paul Jones Arena adds to the prestige of the program more than one win in the NCAAT.