šŸˆ Virginia at North Carolina, Saturday, 25 October 2025, 1200, ACCN

We’re seeing what LaNorris can do behind a Bronco-esque OL lol

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Wrong 2019

Wrong running back and not even greatest pg on his own teams

Correct. If Huff had played Jerome’s legs would have been spared and he wouldn’t be injured right now

Wrong. Carla will be sideline 50 yard line with two pieces of paper at a signing table. One is a contract extensions and the other is a restraining order prohibiting Elliot from being within 100 yards of UVA properties (so all of Charlottesville and scattered regions in NOVA). Which one is signed depends on the outcome

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So you’re saying that the FSU game was 1995 reincarnated and the UNC game will be 2005 reincarnated? I swear I’m breaking something if we lose 7-5.

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Wrong, if Jay Huff had played he would have gotten bullied on defense as evidence by all the minutes he did play AND we wouldn’t have seen tourney Mamadi leading to us not winning the natty AND him transferring in 2019-2020 season.

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This is now a basketball thread.

Captain Phillips GIF

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I’m really not a TE homer but I genuinely believe this team would beat the 2019 team. 2019 was Perkins magic and 2 really good receivers, but a weak OL and a D that was held together by bubble gum after Bryce Hall went down. Team also benefited from an easy schedule.

We only beat 2 teams (Pitt, 7-5, and VT, 8-4) with a winning record that year (and Liberty)

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Blaming Spider-Man GIF

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LOL - ā€œalso" as in they TOO benefitted from an easy schedule.

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When Bronco left we had Olu and Andrew Gentry committed and he would be on grounds now!

I don’t feel super strongly about this, but Bronco did seem to be addressing O-Line more towards the end.

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Those Miami and Louisville games still haunt me

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I think the 2019 team was probably better talent wise.(Florida State and UNC were also 6-6 so had winning records outside the loss to us).

Perkins (NFL guy), Joe Reed (NFL guy), Dubois (Should have been an NFL guy), Wicks (NFL guy), Billy Kemp (good), Jana (good). RB kinda not great those Hollins/Wayne.

On defense Hall (1st rounder) was really the only secondary piece. But they also had Snowden (NFL guy) and Blount (NFL guy?) as well as some guys on the line that got to the QB.

It would be a shootout for sure but I’d probably take the 2019 team due to the passing attack (and weakness of both secondary).

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I dunno, I think Kihei would have been a solid CB. His defensive style seemed suited to it, and he’s only a little short for a DB which is better than being a LOT short for a basketball player.

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Interesting debate. I think it would come down to when the teams played. And I guess we’ll see how this years team pans out on the injury front. If we starting clicking again on offense with the healthier OL and the defense keeps getting better then I agree that this team would win. But I think the 2019 team would’ve won against the version of this years team that we saw against Washington St

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Honestly, I’m also still a bit haunted by 2011. It felt at the time like London had us on the way, but with even the tiniest bit of hindsight that team was lucky beyond measure. That team had a bunch of skin-of-their-teeth wins thanks to a zillion things breaking their way. IIRC, most dramatically we beat ranked FSU by 1 when they doinked like a 20 yard FG off an upright as time expired, but we had a bunch of other wins like that.

8-3 going into the final game with VT looked great, but we’d only outscored our non-W&M opponents by a total of 12 points. And then VT torched us, and we put up a valiant effort against Auburn but weren’t really in their league.

8-5 to end the season still looked pretty decent and a return to form from the good Groh years (which hadn’t been that long before). London got the big extension and ESPN and FOXsports, who both LOVED London, were chomping at the bit to declare him the next big thing.

Sadly, we all ignored that the team was outscored by 15 over the season including the blowout win over W&M. If you set aside W&M, we were outscored by 52 on the season and that was the real indicator of things to come.

Edit - Setting aside W&M (and Coastal Carolina, which penalizes this year’s squad), we’ve outscored our opponents by 37, which the 2011 team never even got close to. That +12 before the VT game was their high-water mark for the season. Setting aside the W&M game, they were underwater for most of the season.

Edit2 - After typing all that out, I’m still a little nervous about this year’s team but I do feel a little better. They’ve pulled out/gotten lucky with some close wins, but I also think they’re generally executing better than 2011 did.

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Checking back in to the board and seeing debates of 2019 vs 2025 and Bronco vs. CTE…

Mike Myers Evil Laugh GIF

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I’m still haunted by the 1995 season. Lost by 1, on a final play TD, at Michigan. Lost by 1, on a final play 50+ yard FG, at Texas. Lost by 1, on a final-minute TD, vs VT (I’m deliberately forgetting the subsequent pick 6 on the actual final play). All 3 teams ranked.

Had we lost by 1, on a final play TD, vs FSU (which we were an inch from doing)… would have been the most brutal season of all time.

In the bowl game, we also gave up a final minute TD to Georgia, to tie. But Petey Allen took the ensuing kickoff to the house :smiling_face_with_sunglasses: I was there it was awesome

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And then Phil Dawson hung around the NFL for 20 years just to taunt us

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The forgotten game in Virginia lore that still angers me me is 1998 on the Flatts against Georgia Tech. Hoos were ranked 7th and up 38-17 at one point before Joe Hamilton and the wreck came roaring back. If the Hoos had won that game a lot would have been different.

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Watched that game at Damon’s, utterly devastated. Remember Damon’s? Ribs/sports bar. Can’t even remember if the food was good, but the screens were big.

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I was in Bobby Dodd for that one. That fourth quarter was gruesome. I still have flashbacks of the Brooks fumble after he retreated about 15 yards behind the LOS.

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